RCR's new car..962

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Brad R.

gt40fran said:
Merc engines are pretty easy to find for 3-5k...
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Interesting, I was under the impression Merc motors would be more costly.

In your experience do they usually weigh more than an aluminum V8? Do they have be mounted higher (how about dry sump)? Aside from an exotic exhaust note do they have paramount advantages over LSx motors? I am curious because regardless of going RCR40, SL-C, 917, and even 962, I have not been able to sort out a motor (NA, FI, V8, V12, etc...)
 
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Alex

Ryeno said:
Interesting, I was under the impression Merc motors would be more costly.

In your experience do they usually weigh more than an aluminum V8? Do they have be mounted higher (how about dry sump)? Aside from an exotic exhaust note do they have paramount advantages over LSx motors? I am curious because regardless of going RCR40, SL-C, 917, and even 962, I have not been able to sort out a motor (NA, FI, V8, V12, etc...)
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*cough* 500+cid LS w/ 850hp.......... (not that I'm trying to round up people so I can get a discount on mine or anythingl ike that, nooo, not me!)
 
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Alex

gt40fran said:
LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA....fingers in my ears.....
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If you buy 5 of them I'm sure you'd get a good discount :laugh:

...heck, have them built to handle boost, stick on your twin turbos, and punch out 1500hp. Mmmm, 1500hp....2100lb....DO WANT! :idea:
 
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Dusty

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Trust me guys I dearly love LS and LT motors. I own vettes with just about every model from LT4, 5 to LS 2, 6 and 7. Even had a 71' Mach I with a 351 Cleveland and that was a nice Ford motor. I'm sure the hand built LS7 etc is lighter being pushrod over DOHC with the Merc, though I recall it actually only has 3v per cylinder. We all know Mercedes builds superlight (j/k) street cars, so it's no doubt a heavier motor. But in the grand scheme, is 50 lbs more a big deal.

I am looking forward to Chevy's Gen V direct injection motors. 890 million in R&D. Should be good. :thumbsup:
 
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Mesa

I am using an World Products LS7 but I started out buying a Ferrari 360 engine and gearbox for my car. Sorry fellas but there is no better sound than a V12, no matter how many organ pipes you graft onto the back :) Listening to the Pagani rip around Nurburg says it all. V12s rule when it comes to sweet sounds.

Seems a VW V12 or is it a W12 would have allowed to 'stick' a Porsche badge on it...shades of my first 'sports' car. A VW914 :).
 
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Brad R.

Mesa said:
I am using an World Products LS7 but I started out buying a Ferrari 360 engine and gearbox for my car. Sorry fellas but there is no better sound than a V12, no matter how many organ pipes you graft onto the back :) Listening to the Pagani rip around Nurburg says it all. V12s rule when it comes to sweet sounds.

Seems a VW V12 or is it a W12 would have allowed to 'stick' a Porsche badge on it...shades of my first 'sports' car. A VW914 :).
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Yours argument regarding sounds is purely subjective. Personally, I love the sound of Zonda's and other exotic engines but i know a lot of people that prefer the growl of the Domestic cross plane crank V8 with it's silly firing order and use of Cams reserved for lawnmowers.

The 962 sounds wonderful - it's a turbo Flat-6, oh and it's a Porsche....
 
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michael

I found a Bmw /Megatron F1 turbo engine from the mid eighties for 18000 euros,now that would make the 962 go, although the rebuild may be costly
 

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Thierry B

BMW Megatron needs very specific fuel (80% Toluol).
I remember, when Alain Prost was following Nelson Piquet, he was crying due to corrosive effect of this particular fuel..

It's a F1 engine, operating costs are enormous.

a friend of mine own a Felipe Massa Ferrari 2006...
overaul every 3000km.... price 180000€

Ok it's a ferrari, but for this engine, i think it would be close...
 
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michael

Thierry,that engine is in france by the way,i think it could be tuned with a motec and run on much nicer fuel these days..........if your doing a track 962 then it makes for the perfect engine in my opinion ................cheers
 
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J. Salmon

I have an '01 Merc CL600, same motor that went into the original Zonda of the same year. Getting ready to get rid of the car, it's only worth about 19k. 57k miles, perfect condition... someone crafty could probably part the car out and have a nice V12 cheap....

I bought the car because of the V12 sound (though it is hard to get at through the Mercedes emissions control system) but can't stand driving an automatic 90% of the time. Life is too short not to drive a manual every day.
 
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Shane

So, Fran...these are not necessarily going to be easy to make street legal? Can you expand on some of the hurdles you see in making that happen?

Any rough ETA on when these will be available? I'm liking the idea so far!
 
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Mesa

I gave the 962 specs a quick look for comparision to the SLC. Seems the 962 is two inches wider, the same forty-two inches in height and what? one inch difference in wheel base. Fran, also seems the cab in the 962 much farther forward (true?) which would make installing the V12 a natural space wise.

I didn't think any car was wider than the SLC, there I go thinking again.
 
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Mark Hamstra

That's why what? If true, I can certainly understand why Fran wouldn't go that route unless it becomes clear that there is high demand for a DOT-legal 962 replica. My question, though, is what can be done to make the car road legal if Fran is not going to supply a DOT-legal windshield? Is there anyway to make the supplied windshield DOT-legal? Any reasonably inexpensive way to create or have created a one-off, DOT-legal windshield? Any way to avoid the DOT requirement? Or is the fact that there is no DOT-legal windshield going to be enough to effectively prohibit builders from crafting a street-legal car?
 
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