I didn't know that.

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
There is an old Hotel/Pub in Marble Arch, London , which used to have a gallows adjacent to it. Prisoners were taken to the gallows (after a fair trial of course) to be hanged.
The horse-drawn dray, carting the prisoner, was accompanied by an armed guard, who would stop the dray outside the pub and ask the prisoner if he would like ''ONE LAST DRINK''.
If he said YES, it was referred to as ONE FOR THE ROAD.
If he declined, that prisoner was ON THE WAGON.

So there you go.. More bleeding history.

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot and then once a day it was taken and sold to the tannery. If you had to do this to survive you were "piss poor", but worse than that were the really poor folk, who couldn't even afford to buy a pot, they "Didn't have a pot to piss in" and were the lowest of the low.

The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be.

Here are some facts about the 1500s:
Most people got married in June, because they took their yearly bath in May and they still smelled pretty good by June. However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odour. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs, thick straw piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom, where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing.

As the winter wore on they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.
(Getting quite an education, aren't you?)

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight, then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: ''Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot, nine days old''.

Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over they would hang up their bacon, to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "Bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around talking and ''chew the fat''.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning and death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or ''The Upper Crust''.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of ''Holding a Wake''.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people, so they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realised they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, thread it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell; thus someone could be, ''Saved by the Bell''or was considered a ''Dead Ringer''

And that's the truth.

Now, whoever said history was boring ! ! !
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
"Lexicology" is the study of the origin of various words and sayings...very interesting to those of us who are educated in Speech and Language Pathology.

Here are a few more:

A SHOT OF WHISKEY
In the old west a .45 cartridge for a six-gun cost 12 cents, so did a glass of whiskey.
If a cowhand was low on cash he would often give the bartender a cartridge in exchange for a drink.
This became known as a "shot" of whiskey.

THE WHOLE NINE YARDS
American fighter planes in WW2 had machine guns that were fed by a belt of cartridges.
The average plane held belts that were 27 feet (9 yards) long.
If the pilot used up all his ammo,
he was said to have given it the whole nine yards.

BUYING THE FARM
This is synonymous with dying.
During WW1 soldiers were given life insurance policies worth $5,000.
This was about the price of an average farm so if you died you "bought the farm" for your survivors.

IRON CLAD CONTRACT
This came about from the ironclad ships of the Civil War.
It meant something so strong it could not be broken.

PASSING THE BUCK / THE BUCK STOPS HERE
Most men in the early west carried a jack knife made by the Buck knife company.
When playing poker it was common to place one of these Buck knives in front of the dealer so that everyone knew who he was.
When it was time for a new dealer the deck of cards and the knife were given to the new dealer.
If this person didn't want to deal he would "pass the buck" to the next player.
If that player accepted then "the buck stopped there".

RIFF RAFF
The Mississippi River was the main way of traveling from north to south.
Riverboats carried passengers and freight but they were expensive so most people used rafts.
Everything had the right of way over rafts which were considered cheap.
The steering oar on the rafts was called a "riff" and this transposed into riff-raff, meaning low class.

COBWEB
The Old English word for "spider" was "cob".

SHIP STATE ROOMS
Traveling by steamboat was considered the height of comfort.
Passenger cabins on the boats were not numbered.
Instead they were named after states.
To this day cabins on ships are called staterooms.

SLEEP TIGHT
Early beds were made with a wooden frame.
Ropes were tied across the frame in a crisscross pattern.
A straw mattress was then put on top of the ropes.
Over time the ropes stretched, causing the bed to sag.
The owner would then tighten the ropes to get a better night's sleep.

SHOWBOAT
These were floating theaters built on a barge that was pushed by a steamboat.
These played small town along the Mississippi River.
Unlike the boat shown in the movie "Showboat" these did not have an engine.
They were gaudy and attention grabbing which is why we say someone who is being the life of the party is "showboating".

HOGWASH
Steamboats carried both people and animals.
Since pigs smelled so bad they would be washed before being put on board.
The mud and other filth that was washed off was considered useless "hog wash".

BARGE IN
Heavy freight was moved along the Mississippi in large barges pushed by steamboats.
These were hard to control and would sometimes swing into piers or other boats.
People would say they "barged in".

OVER A BARREL
In the days before CPR a drowning victim would be placed face down over a barrel and the barrel would be rolled back and forth in an effort to empty the lungs of water.
It was rarely effective. If you are over a barrel you are in deep trouble.

CURFEW
The word "curfew" comes from the French phrase "couvre-feu", which means "cover the fire".
It was used to describe the time of blowing out all lamps and candles.
It was later adopted into Middle English as "curfeu", which later became the modern "curfew".
In the early American colonies homes had no real fireplaces so a fire was built in the center of the room.
In order to make sure a fire did not get out of control during the night it was required that, by an agreed upon time, all fires would be covered with a clay pot called-a "curfew".

BARRELS OF OIL
When the first oil wells were drilled they had made no provision for storing the liquid so they used water barrels.
That is why, to this day, we speak of barrels of oil rather than gallons.

HOT OFF THE PRESS
As the paper goes through the rotary printing press friction causes it to heat up.
Therefore, if you grab the paper right off the press it’s hot.
The expression means to get immediate information.

Origin of the word "FUCK'
During the medieval period in England, couples who wanted to have a child were required to take the issue before the reigning monarch. That "King" could either approve their request or deny it. If it was approved, they were to post a sign that said "Fornicating Under Consent of the King"...hence the origin of that word we all like so much!

More....much more...but it's great fun to share. Great post, Pete!

Cheers!

Doug
 

Glenn M

Supporter
Origin of the word "FUCK'
During the medieval period in England, couples who wanted to have a child were required to take the issue before the reigning monarch. That "King" could either approve their request or deny it. If it was approved, they were to post a sign that said "Fornicating Under Consent of the King"...hence the origin of that word we all like so much!

I'd always understood it came from those days of yore, being caught in the wrong bed, hauled up before the magistrate, whence the charge would be;

For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

Glenn
 

Keith

Moderator
Not really. There are many competing theories for the origins of words and phrases. I mean the "F-U-C-K" theories are hilarious but most seem originate less than 50 years ago...

From Wiki



False etymologies

"One reason that the word fuck is so hard to trace etymologically is that it was used far more extensively in common speech than in easily traceable written forms. There are several urban-legend false etymologies postulating an acronymic origin for the word. None of these acronyms was ever recorded before the 1960s, according to the authoritative lexicographical work The F-Word, and thus are backronyms. In any event, the word fuck has been in use far too long for some of these supposed origins to be possible. Some of these urban legends are that the word fuck came from Irish law. If a couple were caught committing adultery, they would be punished "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge In the Nude," with "FUCKIN" written on the stocks above them to denote the crime. A similar variant on this theory involves the recording by church clerks of the crime of "Forbidden Use of Carnal Knowledge." Another theory is that of a royal permission. During the Black Death in the Middle Ages, towns were trying to control populations and their interactions. Since uncontaminated resources were scarce, supposedly many towns required permission to have children. Hence, the legend goes, that couples that were having children were required to first obtain royal permission (usually from a local magistrate or lord) and then place a sign somewhere visible from the road in their home that said "Fornicating Under Consent of King," which was later shortened to "FUCK." This story is hard to document, but has persisted in oral and literary traditions for many years; however, it has been demonstrated to be an urban legend.<sup id="cite_ref-10" class="reference">[10]</sup>
A different false etymology, first made popular on the radio show Car Talk, states that the phrase "fuck you" comes from the phrase "pluck yew" and relates the origins of fuck to the myth surrounding the V sign. This myth states that French archers at the Battle of Agincourt insulted the English troops' ability to shoot their weapons by waving their fingers in a V shape; after the English secured a landslide victory, they returned the gesture. The addition of the phrase "fuck you" to the myth came when it was claimed that the English yelled that they could still "pluck yew" (yew wood being the preferred material for longbows at the time), a phrase that evolved into the modern "fuck you".<sup id="cite_ref-Sheidlower1998_6-3" class="reference">[6]</sup>






<sup>And that is just one word! It's a fascinating subject and one which I really wish I had got more into before I generally lost interest in everything...</sup>
 
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