Name this original Mk 1 road car?

[Mike Drew]

Hi guys,

Noodling around on Youtube, I found this two-part lengthy TV show segment on what is almost assuredly an original Mk 1 road car, in Southern California:

YouTube - FORD GT40 / Part.1

YouTube - FORD GT40 / Part.2

Very worth watching--lots of good detail shots, and shots of the car being driven slowly through the streets and quiet twisty roads.

So, who can tell us about this car?

 

[Jim Rosenthal]

I agree, it looks like the real thing. Lots of small clues (the rear view mirror, the fuel supply hoses, the FISPA regulator) seem to be the real deal. Plus it's too tatty to be anything other than a real and old car.

The narration is in Japanese, I think, but the scene is the West Coast- maybe California? There aren't a lot of clues, at least not that I can see.

Needs a tuneup, I think, also.

 

[Ron McCall]

What about this one??

YouTube - Auto Esporte - Ford GT40 1963

 

[Randy V]

I agree, it looks like the real thing. Lots of small clues (the rear view mirror, the fuel supply hoses, the FISPA regulator) seem to be the real deal. Plus it's too tatty to be anything other than a real and old car.

The narration is in Japanese, I think, but the scene is the West Coast- maybe California? There aren't a lot of clues, at least not that I can see.

Needs a tuneup, I think, also.

X2 on that Tune-up... I felt sorry for the poor car being allowed to run on and stumble over itself as though the viewer was going to be impressed by the sound...

Good videos though....

 

[Randy V]

I just realized something else...

The Gurney Bubble on the car appears to start in the front of the spider and then stretch back into the door-top..

I don't recall seeing that before...

 

[Mike Trusty]

Needs a good alignment as well as the tuneup. Note the position of the steering wheel when it is going straight.

 

[Rick Muck- Mark IV]

The chassis "thunking and clunking" certainly sounds like an FAV car!

 

[Jim Rosenthal]

Yeah, we tend to forget that old cars act like old cars, don't they....this one needs a trip to RacingIcons and a bit of freshening up. Still, I admit I am envious- wish it was in my garage.

 

[Jim Rosenthal]

I think the language in the video of the red car is Portuguese; I don't know if that's an original car, but the engine sounds a great deal better, and the car is driven quite a bit better in that video. There isn't enough detail to see if it's an original car or not. I think that the SAAC registry documents at least one or two 60s GT40s in South America, though.

 

[Jay Cushman]

The red car is 1085A and not an original but a Tennant tub built by Bryan Wingfeild in the 80s.

The white car is probably 1059 and is filmed on the famous Mullholland Drive in the Hollywood Hills up behind Dean Jeffreys shop

 

[JimmyMac]

The red car is 1085A and not an original but a Tennant tub built by Bryan Wingfeild in the 80s.

Sbarro ?

Saloma do Blog - FORD GT 40...EX-CAPUAVA RACING!

 

[JimmyMac]

P1059

Genuine original 1966 Ford GT40 for sale

 

[Jay Cushman]

Jimmy 1085a could have been built by Sbarro but its not an original car. I am down in Daytona for the week and away from my notes and files so I am working from memory which I seem to lose some every day. The white car was definitly filmed on mullholland drive in LA. There were not alot of white road cars built and it seems original and in all of the times I have seen 1059 and all the old pics I have of it from when Dr. Frost owned it I never recall seeing a tray over the carbs.

 

[JimmyMac]

Jay,
Yes, 1085 'A' is not original as the blog says.
Allegedly Sbarro made the chassis and Bryan outfitted it.

 

[Jay Cushman]

The second video of the white car shows it going up to to the Griffith Observatory just across the 101 from Mullholland drive also in Hollywood.

 

[Victors]

Don´t think she is P1059 James... Could not find which one it is for sure but I am almost certain that it is not 1059. I will keep on searching...

JP

 

[Jim Rosenthal]

If it IS 1059 it's been freshened up since the video was made. The photo on John Allen's web site shows it looking considerably better than the video does...

 

[Jay Cushman]

Here is a pic of the engine compartment last time I saw 1059. Its strange this car has never had a tray over the carbs as far back as I can remember seeing it.

The video and John Allen pics which were supplied by Pat Ryan are at least 30 years apart. 1059 had a repaint when Dr. Frost had it in Iowa I beleive.

 

[JimmyMac]

Gentlemen to be most frank, ~ who cares ?
It's a nice original car nevertheless and I for one am grateful for that video.

 

[Mike Drew]

Gentlemen to be most frank, ~ who cares ?
It's a nice original car nevertheless and I for one am grateful for that video.

Me too--but that doesn't prevent me from wanting to play Sherlock Holmes and divine the identity of this specific car. I've seen quite a few originals in the past few years (not nearly as many as Jay of course, at least in the USA) but this one has eluded me. So I was hoping to hear from somebody who actually knew what car that was.