Oil viscosity for Aluminum Dart block engine

Hello,
My RCR GT40 is equiped with a Dart Aluminum block SBF 302 strocked to 370, full roller, wet sump, with Victor Junior heads, Borla injection. But what kind of oil shall I use for a race track use only. I went on the Dart web site and nothing is specified.
 
I'd be looking for a dry sump setup before getting excited about oil grade, at 370 cu in your gonna have some windage issues with that wet sump on the alloy block. Been there/done that, the main caps do a good job of dividing the wet oil pan into four seperate cavities. Ask the camshaft supplier what oil he would suggest. Remember to take the alloy block and heads into consideration when setting valve lash, the block moves around quite a lot.
 
JacMac, you are completely right, but to run the engine in my garage, at least, I need oil in the engine. Presently the engine is running but the type of oil inside is a mystery and I do not want to spend 60€ to get the info.
Dry sump will be the next step...
 

Randy V

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For street use, I think a good full synthetic 10w30 would be just fine. 15w40 full synthetic would be my likely choice for any sort of endurance or competition..
If it is a flat tappet camshaft and followers, I’d get some extra ZDDP (Zinc) in there Regardless of use (street or track).
 
JacMac, you are completely right, but to run the engine in my garage, at least, I need oil in the engine. Presently the engine is running but the type of oil inside is a mystery and I do not want to spend 60€ to get the info.
Dry sump will be the next step...
Was the engine built by a third party, is it hyd roller or solid roller, could it have straight 30 viscosity. My go-to guy on cams hated synthetic oil on solid rollers as they 'skid' as the roller enters/leaves the lobe, hydraulics were OK as they maintain contact with the lobe. Rev kit is nice but have to be custom build on SBF. Thats why I asked if you were aware of the need to keep valve lash correct when hot.
 

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Prestige is building a all aluminum Brodix BBC for me. Like Bill, they are using the Shell Rotella oil. Next to the last line on the estimate.

Regards Brian
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Thank you for those contributions. I got the information from the car vendor that the engine on my car was the one used to publish a report in Mustang and Fast Ford.
The difference with it is that the inlet is now done by a Borla injection with Accel electronic instead of a carburator.
I am not so sure it is the reality because on the report, the block is painted and on my car the block is aluminum color. May be it is similar. May be some of you know this publication from 2006.
 

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Randy V

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Nothing wrong with that iron block…. It’s a great block.
Shell Rotella 15w40 T6 is what I used in competitions and never an oil related problem.
 

Ian Anderson

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Ok I will be the old one!!!!!!!

on a new engine Castrol R 40 and let it fully warm up before revving it every time. Worked way back and what a glorious smell to go with it

cannot switch between Castrol R and mineral or synthetic oils as they are not compatible…… any residue turns to gloop and so would involve complete engine strip down and clean before changing from the R to the mineral or back.

Ian
 

Glenn M

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Keith Craft swears by Valvoline VR1 20W50. Mine is a similar configuration + dry sump.
Ditto, I have the same block built up by Huddart, he recommended that oil, it's done 30,000 mile on it. He did say with the aluminium block, to warm it up carefully and always get it fully hot before using high revs.
 

Howard Jones

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I am using Valvoline VR1-50 in my motor as recommended by the builder. I change it every winter so it gets about 2000-2500 miles of use per year. More importantly, the temp is controlled to 220-230F MAX! and the engine is not run above 1/3 throttle/3500 rpms until fully warm and not above idle speed until I see at least 160F on the oil temp gauge.

Question for you all. Do you know your oil temp? If not why not? Second question(s). How cold is too cold and how hot is too hot? You need to know these answers. Don't risk your brand-new big buck motor. Google is your friend on this.
 
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