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Old 05-18-09, 05:32 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Re: SteveB MDA MKII Build Diary

A 'Chav' with a '40

What a hoot....

Nah, wouldn't want to see that.....
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Old 09-28-09, 04:58 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Re: SteveB MDA MKII Build Diary

It’s time for an update.
Since getting the car on the road I have done over 1000 miles and took in the club AGM at Stoneleigh, Cholmondley Padgent of Power and the Oulton Park Gold Cup. All great events and a chance to meet up with fellow GT40 enthusiasts.

Every journey highlighted things that needed attention some were quite involved others easy to sort out. A number involved gaining extra inches. These are some of the mods.

I am 6’ so I needed every bit of space by fixing the pedal box at the most foreward position also tilting the seat back and up at the front followed by sculpting the seat foam to lower my butt. This gained extra head and leg room. I still felt the steering wheel was a bit close, however checking steering column U/J’s the spline sections could be fitted deeper into the U/J. this gained an extra inch. I think that a non dished steering wheel will gain another inch. ‘Every little helps’!

I found the both the foot and hand brakes somewhat disappointing The handbrake was the Brembo type that I had to fit to pass the SVA, which it did ; however in general use it makes hillstarts in traffic either stressful or spectacular as the paddle clutch is quite savage. The HiSpec handbrake is very efficient due to its hydro/mechanical system. I will revert to the HiSpec item when I can find a pair of callipers.
The footbrake pedal effort was just too much for this pensioner!. I could not understand why it needed so much effort. The brake disks are 330mm with fourpot callipers 38.6mm dia pistons front and rear. The pedal ratio is 3:1 to mid pedal. I checked the mastercylinder size with HiSpec who suggested .625” front and .750” for the rear which is what are fitted. The pads are EBC green stuff and all the pistons operate correctly. The wheel size/tyres are 215-60x15 front and 295-50x15 rear. I expected this to be good but its not. I the end I fitted twin servos which has transformed the driving experience and has given a sense of confidence that it will stop on demand.

Suspension and steering have demanded attention. I had a local garage do a full computer/laser readout on the suspension and geometry front and rear. This highlighted odd caster and camber and toe settings. Starting from this data I adjusted the highlighted errors, this resulted in a much improved feel on the road.
On smooth roads things felt OK but sudden dips grates etc were bottoming the suspension. First checks that the ride height was right at 4” front and 4.5” rear, showed I had set it a little low, it looked great but speed humps were a problem plus the bottoming out on the front bump rubbers. Raising the ride helped but it still hit the bump rubbers. On further checking with the car on spacer ride height blocks and the springs removed it was clear there was little free movement. It turned out the shocks were 14 1/2” at full extent but there was only suspension droop to 13” so I could fit a shorter shocker that was also shorter in the body that then gave extra movement to bump rubbers. Proteck were very helpful and supplied a pair at 12 1/2”
I fitted these and road tested again; much improved but I was surprised that the potholes now made a solid knock. What had happened was that as I provided more travel and lifted the car on the spring seats, the springs could go coil bound. Changing the shocks settings made no difference.
Spring rates!!! ??? I asked other owners and searched a lot and ended up very confused. The calcs went past my math skills. I bought and read the Allan Staniforth ‘Competition Car Suspension’ an excellent book that has enhanced my basic knowledge. But what spring rate?
In the end I started from what I had, I knew the amount of compression on each spring to get the car to sit at ‘ride height’ from the available spring seat position I selected a spring that would end up at ride height with only slight pre tension. This changed the springs from 275 lb 8” front and 350 lb 10” rear to 425 lb 8” front and 500lb 10.5” rear. In the end I needed a 15 lb helper to hold the rears at full droop.
A run round my now regular moorland road route shows the car is properly ‘suspended’ and much more fun to drive.

The exhaust developed a persistent rattle, it turned out to be the silencer stuffing that had formed a solid lump that was bumping about like beans in a pair of maracas. The silencers were all welded so I cut some holes to allow them to be repacked

I have fitted number circles and some decals also the number lights as dummies. Also have made and fitted made some Dzus tabs for the nostril panel.

Here are a few pics

Steve
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Old 09-29-09, 08:54 AM   #163 (permalink)
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Re: SteveB MDA MKII Build Diary

Steve,
That car is very sweet. Thanks for the updates and some of your solutions to the problems. What are you doing about the permanent grin on your face?
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Old 01-02-10, 01:15 PM   #164 (permalink)
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Re: SteveB MDA MKII Build Diary

A New Year and decade so here is an update.

We have been out and about a bit since the last post, still smiling !!

I took the car to the NEC Classic car show, what a good event: the car was on the Enthusiasts Club stand. There as a good display with a MkI in silver ; my MkII a Gulf colours Mirage and a black MkIII . I lost count of the sit in photo shots!

The brakes were much improved by fitting the servos so the drive each way was quite relaxed, though I still felt that brakes could still be improved. The exhaust rattles returned again especially at low revs; on return I found that #3 exhaust had come loose…again. I had talked with lots of 40 builders during the exhibition so had some options to try.
Brakes first. I had HiSpec four pot front brakes and thought that I could do with extra piston area to improve the brake effort. This could have been some new four pots with larger pistons or try to find some six pots that would fit inside the 15” wheels. In the end I found a pair of HiSpec ‘Monster SixPot’ callipers that gave about 30% more piston area and pads. After lots of temporary mounting and measuring I established the dimensions for the calliper mounting brackets and machined up a pair from billet and had them anodised black to match the callipers. I was not convinced there would be clearance for the stick-on wheel balance weights, in the end there was about 10mm clearance at the calliper. I need some track time to get the brake bias just right.

Taking the exhaust was next. I stripped the whole system after noticing that some of the pipes ran very close to each other and were chafing due to harmonic resonance. In fact when removed there were clear rub marks. I tried some twisting and bending without success; so re assembled the system and identified where extra pipe was needed or where a bit removed would result in greater clearance to avoid the pipes chattering.
I decided to replace the manifold bots with the 12point ARP type that allowed a better tightening grip. I also cut individual gaskets out of some specialist packing sheet. It is a three layer material about 1.5mm thick with a thin bronze sheet between two layers of the graphite sheet.
I refitted the system after the pipe adjustments. A major improvement even the engine efi ran smoother due to the better seal!! However in the new relative quietness yet another vibration could now be heard in the silencers. Oh deep joy.
After lots of poking and prodding it was clearly inside the box itself so off it came again. I removed the stuffing and eventually found that when the silencer was built the perforated tube is pushed into the case from the back , the front of the perf pipe is a push fit into the collector end. The rear is welded up to complete the silencer box. What had happened was the perf tube was not a tight fit in the collector end and was vibrating. I could just get the MIG torch in from the open collector end and tack the perf pipe into place.
It all sounds much smoother, the harsh tick over and low revs noised have gone. As soon as the snow and salt go a test drive is in order.

I am getting ready for the Le Mans Classic in good time.

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Old 02-17-10, 07:32 AM   #165 (permalink)
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Re: SteveB MDA MKII Build Diary

It's taken till Febuary to get a break in the weather where the roads are free of what little salt our local authority have been spreading.
The drive to checkout the new six pot brakes has given a reassuring result. There is some work to do in fine tuning the bias, but the the brakes now feel very reassuring and positive.

In general driving I have found the need for a headlamp flasher and missed having an intermittent wiper. At night I was too late reaching the headlight switch for a quick flash signal.

I have made up a set of switches behind the steering wheel for main beam flash, wiper single stroke and washers. The wheel is removable so there is a curly cord and plug. It is all wired via relays to allow low current loads and prevent back feed to other systems.

It all works pretty well, here are some pics of the layout

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Old 02-17-10, 07:45 AM   #166 (permalink)
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Re: SteveB MDA MKII Build Diary

Nice Steve!

On the intermittent wiper, just an FYI, I am going to copy Geoff Gear's idea, where he used an old Rover rotary wiper switch that incoprated 2 speed, intermittent and push for wash. The intermittent used a Skoda relay for the timing.

Like your idea on the flash!
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Old 02-19-10, 02:27 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Re: SteveB MDA MKII Build Diary

Hi Steve, just a little info please. Did you get those 6pots inside 15inch rims? would be good to hear from you

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Richard

I have replied to both your messages, can you pm me an email address and I'll copy the replies to you direct as my replies have not come through to you.

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Hi Steve

Thanks for that. I am not sure what is happening but i have set a new email rsnye@btinternet.com tiscali has been letting me down for months so moved to BT

Many thanks for your time and patience.

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