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08-03-05, 08:23 PM
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| | Pete Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 37   | Victorian Police working on their Public image There is a lot of debate in this country over whether speed
cameras are used for reducing the road toll as simple revenue raisers. I think the following pictures of Victorian State Police hiding a speed camera in a rubbish bin on a suburban street has a lot more to do with raising money for the State than reducing the toll. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] |
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08-03-05, 08:24 PM
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| | Pete Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 37   | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Two |
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08-03-05, 08:26 PM
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| | Pete Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 37   | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Three |
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08-03-05, 08:27 PM
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| | Pete Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 37   | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Four |
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08-03-05, 08:57 PM
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| | ahirsbrunner Administrator 
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago, IL USA GT40: RCR-40 #24
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Rep Power: 8  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image What happens on garbage day? :-) |
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08-03-05, 09:40 PM
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| | 4 Tenths 
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Rep Power: 9  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image PRICKS!!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] |
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08-03-05, 09:40 PM
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| | CCX33911 10 tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2001 GT40: Virginia
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Rep Power: 19  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image What happens at 2am? Baseball bat? |
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08-03-05, 10:49 PM
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| | 40bud 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francosco a GT40: GTD Finished in
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Rep Power: 13  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image A little black spray paint would do wonders! |
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08-04-05, 12:05 AM
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| | roaldin 5 Tenths 
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia GT40: RF
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Rep Power: 12  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Who'd have thought it? Five constables standing around a garbage bin when there are people to shoot.
Is it just me or does the little piggy one at the back look like our prime sycophant? - "How can we use terrorism to get this one past the public?"
Funnily enough, if you squint a little he looks like he's standing in it, nice metaphor, although it'd be more accurate if instead of standing he was lying.
Tell you what though, I wouldn't like to be one of the scapegoa.. er people he's surrounded himself with. Accurate right down to being the only one not actually looking in the bin, so he can say he never saw it.
Tim. (feeling a tad cynical at the moment) |
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08-04-05, 10:44 AM
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| | Chris Liokos 7 Tenths 
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Rep Power: 14  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Front page story in today's Herald Sun (largest selling newspaper in Victoria) was a leaked confidential police document..."Speed Camera Policy and Operations Manual"
Point 2 stated...
OPERATORS must not camouflage or disguise the cameras in a way that could lead the public perception of "sly operations"
Well glad to see the boys-in-blue stuck to that one. Obviously the only public perception that can be taken from the location of this camera is that they are a load of rubbish.
Other quotes stated that...
Speed camera readings can be distorted by metal signs, fences, walls and even Australia Post letter boxes.
... so from this we can all rest assured that the these cameras will always give an acurate reading, unless of coarse you are unfortunate enough to find yourself driving along a road where there is a road sign or a fence or a wall or something... can't remember the last time I saw one of those items anywhere near a city street. |
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08-04-05, 12:53 PM
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| | MikeDD 10 tenths 
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Rep Power: 21  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image In the US the police seldom hide the radar gun...they hide the entire car behind a barrier, or operate out of an unmarked car. One of the funnier things drivers do on US roads is slow down as soon as they pass a radar gun....
as if somehow that makes them less guilty...
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08-04-05, 03:57 PM
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| | BenL 6 Tenths 
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image There's something odd about those pictures. In the first two pictures, the bin is green, in the second two pictures, it's grey. Have they hidden cameras in more than one rubbish bin?
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One of the funnier things drivers do on US roads is slow down as soon as they pass a radar gun....
as if somehow that makes them less guilty...
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In a small town in New Hampshire, I got friendly with the local police officer. He said that when he's operating a speed trap, he'll take two or three readings on a speeding car. If the driver is paying enough attention to the road to notice the speed trap and slows down, he'll usually let the car go (as long as his initial speed wasn't too fast). His goal is to get cars to slow down, not to increase revenue for the town. |
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08-04-05, 06:17 PM
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| | Pete Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 37   | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Your friendly cop from New Hampshire should re-locate to Melbourne, he would make to Commissioner (Police Chief) in no time. Maybe even get voted in as Premier (Governor). [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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08-04-05, 06:49 PM
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| | CraigW RCR Australia 
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Rep Power: 9  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image [ QUOTE ]
Point 2 stated...
OPERATORS must not camouflage or disguise the cameras in a way that could lead the public perception of "sly operations"
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Even ignoring the stupidity of installing camera in a wheelie bin, Police department goes to great lengths to disguise speed cameras up here. After initially using all white vans, they have introduced different types of vehicles, different colours and hide them the best they can. Supposed to put out a sign that says there is a speed camera in action, they put the signs out, but place them so no one can see them.
Yep, in their minds, the Wheelie Bin is just the next logical progression. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
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08-04-05, 07:23 PM
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| | kenshiro8 I Have No Life 
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Milano,Italy GT40: Fujimi 1/24
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Rep Power: 28  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Believe it or not...exactly those pictures appear also here in italy with the same porpouse.
I am starting think it is a giant joke.
Picture number 3 many say here...was done in a street of Milano.
all this article appered on our main motor magazine "quattroruote".
Paul |
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08-04-05, 07:23 PM
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| | Pete Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 37   | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image The major problem with this slyness is the lack of respect for the police it creates and the damage it does to their
image. When people lose respect for law enforcers, it becomes easier for them to disregard the law.
Most of the coppers I know, (my brother in law is one)are nice people tying to do what is an extremely difficult and thankless job.
Unfortunately, this sort of underhand skulduggery reflects on all of them. It is a pity that their bosses and the politicians don't realise that.
But the revenue raised from these hidden camera's is now so great, that I suspect all we will see is more and more of them, with no apparent effect on speeding drivers or the road carnage. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] |
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08-04-05, 07:37 PM
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| | BenL 6 Tenths 
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image [ QUOTE ]
Picture number 3 many say here...was done in a street of Milano
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That could be. It looks like the car in the background is driving on the right side of a street with a grassy strip in the middle. |
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08-04-05, 07:54 PM
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| | Pete Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 37   | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Could be, I received the pics from an email, so who knows? The uniforms certainly look like Vic Police. |
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08-04-05, 08:03 PM
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| | CraigW RCR Australia 
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Rep Power: 9  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image Did a quick search and found this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1131149.htm
"SA defends wheelie bin speed camera plan"
They also used the same 3rd photo from above in the article. But they might have just stolen the photo from somewhere else. |
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08-05-05, 12:05 PM
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| | Chris Liokos 7 Tenths 
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Rep Power: 14  | Re: Victorian Police working on their Public image [ QUOTE ]
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Picture number 3 many say here...was done in a street of Milano
That could be. It looks like the car in the background is driving on the right side of a street with a grassy strip in the middle.
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However, the camera in the wheelie bin is pointing down the left side of the road. Although its possible that it is set up to read cars that are moving away from the camera, its more likely that it is reading the speed of oncoming | |