P4 Questions

marc · 03-19-07, 11:06 PM

Not many of you guys are showing or talking about the P4's built or in progress. I know y'all like the American cars. I like them too. But unfortunately (or fortunately), I have a different color blood or march to a different band or ...

Any way I have some questions for you Italian heads.

1. What engines have you installed or planning to? I live in the Republik of Kalifornia and you know they are from a different planet. In addition did you consider engine weight in your decisions.

2. What wheel sizes did you go with. I would like to use the Can Am spec wheels, 10 in front 14 in rear. I hope to do A LOT of track based driving (racing). Also would like to know from you racers, with track experience regarding the widths and the issues with them, LSDs/Transaxle/half shafts.

3. Due to my experience with a Kit, cooling is a big concern for driver, engine brakes and transaxle. to keep each alive would the standard radiator suffice for engine. Cooling for the driver ducts are part of the kit or configuration. I have not decided on an enclosed cockpit or not yet.

4. Transaxle that I want to use would be a dogring sequential, but I will most likely have to use the 930 on cost issues. another possible requirement will be an "gulp" automatic based on business partner (wife) wishing to drive. Any ideas here guys? And no, I will not dissolve the partnership, etc, etc.

Thanks for your ideas and feed back

Marc MadMax Blum

Fuoriserie - Italo · 03-20-07, 03:53 PM

The P4 is one of my all time favourite designs, and would love to own a replica one day....a two car garage with a P4 and GT40 side by side..

I think that, but i'm not 100% sure, nobody is building a P4 yet...but could be wrong.

Would love to see a build site..

domtoni · 03-20-07, 04:22 PM

Marc,

A guy, Lee Noble, built the first P4 kit and took the body mould from a real P4. He sold the company to NF Auto:
N F Auto Development & Car Builder Solutions. Kit Car, Kit Car Parts, Ferrari P4 replica specialists
The kit project is now for sale.

A P4 kit was sold with a Ferrari engine, and it must be neat !!!

Like Italo, I am a P4 fan.

Just a question: Anyone running a big old motor with lots of power (450+) has to deal with the heat problem. I suspect that Fran's car does a good job of removing the heat from the engine.
I have not ridden in one of these lovely vehicles in the Republik of Kalifornia. Perhaps some of the experts can enlighten us. Fran offers AC as an option.

Best
Dom

Fran Hall RCR · 03-20-07, 04:25 PM

We have done a few P4's...in fact one in Carbon fibre will be shipped to its new owner very soon.....two more underway with V12 Ferrari engines

Paul Osborn · 03-20-07, 05:38 PM

...Carbon fibre...V12 Ferrari engines

Sweet.

Fran Hall RCR · 03-20-07, 06:21 PM

Gotta "hawk" those cars ...baby.....

Mesa · 03-20-07, 06:45 PM

Fran,
Can we see pics of any of these? Would the owners allow it? The V12 installation would be nice to have a look at. What kind of trannys are they hooking up to theve V12s?

Little Brother to the Big Ferrari -
Rob

Fran Hall RCR · 03-20-07, 07:16 PM

Sorry Rob...
no pics one owner has asked not to have pics shown and the other is very early in the build phase.
We have fabricated one bellhousing as a pattern and are now considering casting a bellhousing specifically for the 365/400i engine family.
This is using the ZF 25/2 transaxle.

I LOVE GT40- Paolo · 03-20-07, 07:25 PM

Sono italiano e amo la P4.

Ma amo solo quella di Jim....chissà perchè...

Paolo

Keith Hardy · 03-20-07, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenshiro8

Sono italiano e amo la P4.

Ma amo solo quella di Jim....chissà perchè...

Paolo

Paulo, poiché è bello!

I LOVE GT40- Paolo · 03-20-07, 08:19 PM

quella di Jim è proprio bella, si, bellissima direi. E credo che anche Jim lo sappia bene.
E direi che la sua p4 è molto più bella della sua p5, e spero che lui non capisca questa frase

..its just my italian soul that has Ferrari SO MUCH inside heart that can become as something religious.
As many knows here...own a Ferrari is to own something pubblic. U just save her,and have to show to others,for the beauty, possibly driving slowly.

I love all Fran works, but the ones I really love and think affordable and possible are only Gt40s and Cobras,maybe cause I love the american engines.

Dunno...replicate a Ferrari for me is as make a replica of my mom...really.
Simply is my small brain that prefer other cars.

Ferrari is Ferrari,even more for an italiano

MK -IV J6 · 03-21-07, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenshiro8

quella di Jim è proprio bella, si, bellissima direi. E credo che anche Jim lo sappia bene.
E direi che la sua p4 è molto più bella della sua p5, e spero che lui non capisca questa frase

..its just my italian soul that has Ferrari SO MUCH inside heart that can become as something religious.
As many knows here...own a Ferrari is to own something pubblic. U just save her,and have to show to others,for the beauty, possibly driving slowly.

I love all Fran works, but the ones I really love and think affordable and possible are only Gt40s and Cobras,maybe cause I love the american engines.

Dunno...replicate a Ferrari for me is as make a replica of my mom...really.
Simply is my small brain that prefer other cars.

Ferrari is Ferrari,even more for an italiano

One for you...

MK -IV J6 · 03-21-07, 12:06 AM

On Sacred Roads...

Fuoriserie - Italo · 03-21-07, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MK -IV J6

On Sacred Roads...

That is a beautifull rolling piece of car design, out in the open on a sunny day....it must be a thrilling joy to drive

Targa Florio circuit roads? or somewhere else?

Ciao
Italo

MK -IV J6 · 03-21-07, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuoriserie

That is a beautifull rolling piece of car design, out in the open on a sunny day....it must be a thrilling joy to drive

Targa Florio circuit roads? or somewhere else?

Ciao
Italo

Yes. Historic Targa Florio 2006. This year I'll be there with P 4/5.

Best

I LOVE GT40- Paolo · 03-21-07, 08:26 AM

Jim..u killed me.ihihihi..

Fuoriserie - Italo · 03-21-07, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MK -IV J6

Yes. Historic Targa Florio 2006. This year I'll be there with P 4/5.

Best

Jim
I will be there too, so looking forward to seeing the P4/5 in real life.

Are you showing the P4/5 at Villa D'Este this year?, I'm planning to be at both events this year, so hoping to see and meet you there....

Ciao
Italo

marc · 03-21-07, 11:13 AM

Hijackers!
Fran I will try and call today.

Paolo, sorry man, when the real ones are 1. millions of bucks, 2. so rare you are afraid to drive let alone race. 3. In the racers mind, build it better, then this is the way to go. Dude, don't make love to a car, drive it like you stole it, you know like that first kiss (OF A GIRL). I love Fer...
s, they are like liberal extremeist, its their way or they kill you. not to mention the Tifosi, put on aftermarket item on your car and they just come unglued. I would love to see a pimped up f car neon and big wings and a frt can exhaust just to watch their reaction.