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07-23-08, 01:09 PM
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| | Dom9 Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London
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Rep Power: 1  | BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Guys, there is a chap on Pistonheads, hovering about the Ultima forum, with a BMW M5 V10 engine for sale... Drop the boat anchors!!!!
I assume that it might be tricky to get the 'box and engine mated as no one has made an adaptor plate or bellhousing yet (or have they) but I think this would be a wonderful engine for an SLC and would certainly tempt me!
Thought it might be useful for any of the UK guys on here thinking of building an SLC with a funky powerplant!
With regards to my situation and the fact that my Group C project is stalling, I think we need to buy a new house (later this year) and see how much money we have left before I get in touch again Fran! But I can see me visiting next year - Beautiful car! |
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07-23-08, 01:44 PM
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| | Ron Earp Site Administrator 
Join Date: Sep 2001
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Rep Power: 57  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Boat anchor huh?
An LS7 is lighter, smaller, less complicated, inexpensive,and makes only 7 less hp but 100 lb-ft more torque.
And that is but a production example, with custom engines the difference could be much greater..... |
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07-23-08, 02:02 PM
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| | Craig7L A Tenth 
Join Date: May 2008 Location: Silverstone-UK GT40: SL-C023
Posts: 126
Rep Power: 2  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? am a UK guy looking to "get" an SL-C but..... taking all things into consideration would either go new LS7 or LS3 with new suitable gearbox. |
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07-23-08, 02:31 PM
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| | Chadillac Rookie 
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Idaho
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 1  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Well, I think a BMW V10 would be an awesome engine to go into the SL-C. While of course the LS-series is a great choice I personally love to see all these crazy powerplants. I'm still waiting for someone to go with a gas turbine. |
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07-23-08, 02:37 PM
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| | simonjrwinter 10 tenths 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
Posts: 1,843
Rep Power: 25  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Theres a viper V10 being put in a 7 type car over here.
__________________ GTD with Southern GT rear end. Lowered engine and gearbox. 302, R21T gearbox with LSD. |
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07-23-08, 02:59 PM
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| | Mesa 4 Tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Clara, Ca GT40: SLC 001
Posts: 410
Rep Power: 7  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? the V10 would be awesome! i had crazy big block ideas for mine when i first ordered ..... well actually i had V12 Ferrari ideas before that. as it turned out i opted of the LS7 due to the lack of time available to work out the challenges of being 'different'.
the cool thing is we can change the engine out for something more exotic in the future when time allows. makes for something to look forward to in the future ... kind of like an ongoing christmas present :-) the toy that keeps on giving. |
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07-23-08, 04:08 PM
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| | aladinsane Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: So Cal, USA GT40: Tornado
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Rep Power: 14   | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Intertaining thought but not sure I would go with BMW V10.
I currenty drive an M6 daily. I love the car, the exhaust has been modified with Eisennmann mufflers (can't tell you which sound I like the best GT40vsV10 - two distinctly different sounds), the sequential trans is absolutely awesome and the handling is fantastic for a "GT" road car.
BMW as a complete package is a fabulous car but......motor is seriously lacking in torque thus the reason, I believe, a seven speed trans. M6 is incredible above 60 mph but lacking out of the hole. With that said, just for something different it would be interesting to see in a 2000 lb car (the M6 is 4200 lbs) But as Ron eluded to, there are other options with more bang for the buck.
__________________ Tornado TS40, Dart Alum 351\427, 8 Stack EFI
G50\52 w\cooler, cable side shift, Halibrand KO, Hoosiers |
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07-23-08, 04:25 PM
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| | salmjo1 3 Tenths 
Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lynchburg, VA
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Rep Power: 7  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? I would think you would want the SMG box with it. That is going to be a hard setup to do. Cool, yes. But you need the coin and the knowledge to pull it off. Just because someone is using one as a paperweight and gives the impression he will "give" it away, I don't think this is a free lunch.
Although for certain a 500 hp V10 7 speed sequential shift SLC would be one helluva car...
__________________ RCR40, LS7, Kinsler stack, EFI, Ricardo box. |
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07-23-08, 05:58 PM
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| | Craig7L A Tenth 
Join Date: May 2008 Location: Silverstone-UK GT40: SL-C023
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? the other problem in UK with used/recond engines is that the mating trans will need to be NEW or the car will end up with a dreaded "Q" plate |
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07-24-08, 06:43 AM
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| | Dom9 Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London
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Rep Power: 1  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Craig, just replying to your PM over on SELOC - Small world
I don't think you would be concerned about the lack of torque in a sub 1000kg SL-C, and is it even 'lacking' torque, or just compared to an LS7?
Would probably be a tricky engine to get running and work out all the details but I am sure that it would be rewarding!! |
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07-24-08, 09:50 AM
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| | Dom9 Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London
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Rep Power: 1  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Advert is up now: Parts & Accessories : BMW M5 V10 ENGINE PACKAGE
£8k (US$16k) is a lot of money but it sounds like he would be willing to sort out the gearbox issues etc... BMW M5 V10 Engine
I do love it... Would sound awesome in the back of the SL-C! |
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07-24-08, 10:06 AM
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| | Craig7L A Tenth 
Join Date: May 2008 Location: Silverstone-UK GT40: SL-C023
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? |
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07-24-08, 11:52 AM
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| | Dom9 Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London
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Rep Power: 1  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Now you're talking! LOL!
Apparently those BMW V10s have been selling on eBay for about £3k according to that thread on PH... That sounds too low to me, but my, what a bargain!
I think we must be stalking each other round the car forums of the world Craig! LOL! |
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07-24-08, 05:49 PM
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| | John S A Tenth 
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Netherlands
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Rep Power: 4  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? It seems with the new BMW engines you can't just swap them into a different car, a BMW dealer has to re-program the ECU in connection with the engine and starter key. I know of some people who tried a similar trick with the V8 M3 engine and they couldn't get it running properly, unless you spend big money on it with DPA.
John |
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07-24-08, 06:27 PM
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| | salmjo1 3 Tenths 
Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lynchburg, VA
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Rep Power: 7  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? You would probably be best to dump the factory ECU and go with a custom Motec. That is what the guys that put the 360 motor in the Rambler did. Apparently Ferrari was not that helpful
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07-25-08, 06:06 AM
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| | Dom9 Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London
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Rep Power: 1  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? My assumption was that you would have to bin the BMW management and go stand-alone. I would have thought that systems such as MOTEC and alike would be able to handle the VANOS-type stuff... Plus, you would probably be running a slightly different induction set-up along with a very different exhasut system for a mid-engine applications, so I would have thought that a standalone ECU would net a few extra ponies and be worthwhile anyway!
What is a Rambler - that sounds interesting! |
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07-25-08, 01:53 PM
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| | Mesa 4 Tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Clara, Ca GT40: SLC 001
Posts: 410
Rep Power: 7  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? <chuckle>
A Rambler was a VERY pedestrian smallish station wagon from the (?) late 50's early 60's made by American Motors if I'm not mistaken. |
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07-25-08, 01:57 PM
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#18 (permalink)
| | Mesa 4 Tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Clara, Ca GT40: SLC 001
Posts: 410
Rep Power: 7  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? Ohhps,
Was going to attach these.... |
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07-25-08, 05:03 PM
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| | Conquest351 5 Tenths 
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austin, TX GT40: None Yet
Posts: 550
Rep Power: 7  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? ^^^^^^
Why?
I'm all for crazy wild engine swaps, but dude... There's a line SOMEWHERE, even for me! But I guess that's what they wanted and that's what they got. LOL
Now that I think about it, it's kinda cool...
__________________ About to order a SL-C, wait, or is it an SL-C? |
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07-25-08, 05:46 PM
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| | spud Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, USA GT40: Gardner Douglas T70
Posts: 55
Rep Power: 4  | Re: BMW V10 Engined SLC - Anyone in the UK? | |