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02-11-07, 02:49 PM
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| | kepetersen Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida GT40: SPF Mk I
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Rep Power: 2  | Front Canard Wings Has anyone found a supplier of canard wings, the sort that were attached on either side of the nose, just forward of the front wheel well? They were often found on cars like #1036 to reduce lift at very high speeds. I've asked the folks at Superformance if they have them available, but no positive word yet.
They look great, and my understanding is that at the reunion at Laguna Seca some years back several entrants found it necessary to afix quickly-made versions because of adverse lift. I would think that someone either has them available as an option or that a period-correct template might exist.
Thanks!
Kim
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02-11-07, 02:54 PM
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| | wealdenengineer 10 tenths
Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: East Sussex, UK
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Rep Power: 17  | Re: Front Canard Wings Kim, just got today CAD drawings of the Canards, will be making a set for evaluation as soon as I can find the time, Frank |
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02-11-07, 02:55 PM
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| | wealdenengineer 10 tenths
Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: East Sussex, UK
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Rep Power: 17  | Re: Front Canard Wings Also doing prototype Mark2 luggage boxes for he SPF. |
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02-11-07, 03:01 PM
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| | Bigblockquad Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norcal GT40: SPF GT
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: Front Canard Wings Actually I had the same request for Superformance. I don't think, at the time, they wanted to replicate them. Now I'm not so sure but I'm probably going to have them made when the car arrives.
P.S. I had the same issues with the rear cargo boxes. Two months ago they were unable to provide them. I spoke to Ian at Dynamic last week and he related that they are now available.
Just my .02
Rich. |
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02-11-07, 03:09 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Rep Power: 32   | Re: Front Canard Wings I would be interested in the canard wings too. How do they attach to the body?
Thanks
Bill D
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02-11-07, 03:18 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Manufacturer of GT40: Michigan,USA
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| Re: Front Canard Wings We just did some aluminum canards for a Lola in the shop...
I will post pics tomorrow....
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02-11-07, 03:21 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Rep Power: 32   | Re: Front Canard Wings Fran-
Sounds cool! Do they rivet to the body?
Bill D
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02-11-07, 03:25 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor
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| Re: Front Canard Wings There is a flange that I recommend you bolt on .
There is a thin doubler on the inside of the body to spread the load that the Canard can generate.
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
XJ13 for SCF www.RACECARREPLICAS.COM www.superlitecars.com |
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02-11-07, 04:20 PM
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| | Dlampe Silver Supporter
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Centralia IL GT40: RCR GT 40
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Rep Power: 9  | Re: Front Canard Wings Fran, Regarding my list....
Do we have room to add these babies?  |
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02-11-07, 04:35 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor
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| Re: Front Canard Wings I am about to add an extra month to your delivery time.......  ...didn't you promise me you were not going to add anything else.....where am I going to put the kitchen sink now.???
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
XJ13 for SCF www.RACECARREPLICAS.COM www.superlitecars.com |
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02-11-07, 10:57 PM
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| | Alan in Nevada Rookie
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Carson City, Nevada GT40: A Superformance GT is on my "get list."
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: Front Canard Wings Weren't these items referred to "in the day" as strakes?
If not, what was the difference? |
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02-11-07, 11:09 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor
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| Re: Front Canard Wings Canards are on the front and strakes on the rear (of the main wing)...thats a generalisation I am led to believe in aeronautics.
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
XJ13 for SCF www.RACECARREPLICAS.COM www.superlitecars.com |
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02-11-07, 11:16 PM
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| | Alan in Nevada Rookie
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Carson City, Nevada GT40: A Superformance GT is on my "get list."
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: Front Canard Wings Hmmmm. O.K.
I've never, ever heard or read the term "canard" in reference to the aerodynamics and the appendages which influence which on sports-racing cars of the 1960's. |
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02-11-07, 11:31 PM
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| | Phil 3 Tenths
Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey GT40: scratch built Mk1
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Rep Power: 8  | Re: Front Canard Wings We always affectionately called them "ankle biters"...regardless of the name they do work.
Cheers
Phil |
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02-12-07, 01:53 PM
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| | Hi-Tech Auto Rookie
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: Front Canard Wings Kim, We can supply the car with "canard wings" and have one on the way to Chile right now. I will get someone to post a picture tomorrow if we took one. Regards |
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02-12-07, 02:05 PM
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| | Big-Foot Gold Supporter
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN GT40: Replica
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| Re: Front Canard Wings Canard (aeronautics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I'm interested in these as well. However - I have a slightly different design in mind. They are also called Winglets - BTW.
More along the line of what's been used on the ALMS cars;  |
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02-12-07, 05:06 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Manufacturer of GT40: Michigan,USA
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| Re: Front Canard Wings Here are pics as promised yesterday...
These are unpolished and held on with two sided tape to show the fit....didn't want to drill holes in this customers body.....not yet anyway.
As you can see we have different profiles depending upon car model..
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
XJ13 for SCF www.RACECARREPLICAS.COM www.superlitecars.com |
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02-12-07, 05:18 PM
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| | Sandy Gulf GT40
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA GT40: RCR GT40 Gulf
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Rep Power: 17  | Re: Front Canard Wings Fran, not sure if this is an english thing, but the 'Mud Flaps' go on the back of the car  and generally you do want a naked lady emblem for them...
Sandy
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02-12-07, 05:23 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Manufacturer of GT40: Michigan,USA
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| Re: Front Canard Wings These are for when you spin your car, so you can still see where you are going.....
Our inspiration were these fabulous cars.... Ford GT40 Restoration - The Finish
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
XJ13 for SCF www.RACECARREPLICAS.COM www.superlitecars.com |
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02-12-07, 06:45 PM
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#20 (permalink)
| | Sandy Gulf GT40
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA GT40: RCR GT40 Gulf
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Rep Power: 17  | Re: Front Canard Wings Fran -
That is brilliant, I should think more out of the box :-)
Keep up the good work!
Sandy
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