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06-17-08, 09:18 PM
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| | kepetersen Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida GT40: SPF Mk I
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Rep Power: 2  | 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Some of you may have heard that Dennis Olthoff delivered my Superformance Mk. I to Car & Driver magazine for a road test. Olthoff Racing did a superb job preparing the car – fantastic attention to detail, in keeping with their reputation.
[For background, they installed my Keith Craft all-aluminum 427w with a TWM 'nostalgia' injection system, along with the new Quaife ZFQ transmission. Olthoff's dyno numbers showed 510 hp at the rear wheels. The car has the standard width BRM wheels and AVON 295/215 tires rear/front.]
We just received the following results from Dennis, who is en route back: CAR & DRIVER TEST RESULTS (UNOFFICIAL)- 0-60 mph: 3.8 seconds
- 1/4 mile: 11.8 seconds
- Skid Pad: 1g+ (I haven't heard the final result)
Unfortunately, given that the test was performed at the Chrysler Testing Grounds, they don't allow pictures, so we'll have to wait until the article comes out. However, they say it might be a four-page spread – which would be pretty cool!
When Dennis returns I should have more to report, so stay tuned.
Kim
__________________ Kim Petersen SPF GT40 P/2192 Mk I w/ Keith Craft Aluminum 427IR
F430 F1 Berlinetta
SPF Mk III w/ Ford 460
MB C55 "I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather; not screaming and terrified like his passengers."
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06-17-08, 09:45 PM
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| | chuck 1 7 Tenths 
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: greenville,SC GT40: CAV
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 excellent Kim, looking forward to the write up. 3.8 puts it right in Ferrari 430 territory
__________________ chuck smith
CAV MONO GT40-302
SPF Daytona Coupe- Roush 427r
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06-17-08, 09:52 PM
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| | 550spydr A Tenth 
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Millbrook,NY GT40: GTD
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Rep Power: 4  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Kim,
Great news. I was wondering when a major magazine would get around to testing an SPF. Seems long overdue ... I'm looking forward to the article and congratulations to you . You must be really pumped!!
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06-17-08, 10:05 PM
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| | kepetersen Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida GT40: SPF Mk I
Posts: 93
Rep Power: 2  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck 1 3.8 puts it right in Ferrari 430 territory | Yep, but unlike the F430, I won't mind racking up the miles on the GT40! (I wonder what it might have been had it been shod with Pirelli 345's on the rear?)
Kim
__________________ Kim Petersen SPF GT40 P/2192 Mk I w/ Keith Craft Aluminum 427IR
F430 F1 Berlinetta
SPF Mk III w/ Ford 460
MB C55 "I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather; not screaming and terrified like his passengers."
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06-18-08, 12:31 AM
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| | Foowowee A Tenth 
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Homer Glen, IL GT40: Superformance
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Rep Power: 4  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Congratulations! I look forward to seeing the article.
If it's a positive article, it benefits all SPF GT40 owners. I would be especially interested in what they have to say about the Quaife transaxle. As time goes by, I am quite happy wih the RBT tranaxle.   
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06-19-08, 06:07 PM
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| | kepetersen Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida GT40: SPF Mk I
Posts: 93
Rep Power: 2  | Update on 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Dennis Olthoff has returned from Michigan and has provided me with an update on the test results: CAR & DRIVER TEST RESULTS (OFFICIAL) 0-60 mph: 3.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 11.7 seconds at 126 mph
Skid Pad: 1.01g
Interestingly, there was also a Lotus Exige with a supercharged engine being tested at the same time. Here are its performance numbers:
0-60 mph: 4.0 seconds
1/4 mile: 13 seconds
Skid Pad: 0.98g
On the one-mile strait at the Chrysler Testing Grounds, Dennis says that the GT40 easily reached 150 mph, which is the upper limit allowed at that facility. Once at 150, they immediately shut down the run. The Lotus, on the other hand, was only able to reach 142 before it ran out of track.
Hey, for a 40-odd year old design with sub-optimal tires, the SPF did all right! I'll let you know anything else I hear.
Kim
__________________ Kim Petersen SPF GT40 P/2192 Mk I w/ Keith Craft Aluminum 427IR
F430 F1 Berlinetta
SPF Mk III w/ Ford 460
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06-20-08, 11:57 PM
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| | Alan in Nevada Rookie 
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Carson City, Nevada GT40: A Superformance GT is on my "get list."
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 So the Quaife ZF transaxles are in production and available. Could you quote the price that you paid for yours and the importation source?
Enjoy your new GT40. It isn't everybody's car that appears in one of the world's top car magazines.  |
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06-21-08, 12:08 PM
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| | Dlampe Silver Supporter 
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Centralia IL GT40: RCR GT 40
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Rep Power: 9  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Congrats! That is some really cool info on your car. I can't wait to see the article. That is really great. |
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06-23-08, 01:23 AM
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| | EGLITOM 3 Tenths 
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany GT40: RCR 40
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan in Nevada So the Quaife ZF transaxles are in production and available. Could you quote the price that you paid for yours and the importation source?
Enjoy your new GT40. It isn't everybody's car that appears in one of the world's top car magazines.  | Alan
Contact Chris Melia or Martin Gough. They are the people behind the ZFQ.
I know the sold a lot of boxes to Olthoff Racing ,but i suppose they are all spoken for. So best is to contact them directly via the forum
TOM
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06-23-08, 07:47 PM
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| | kepetersen Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida GT40: SPF Mk I
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan in Nevada So the Quaife ZF transaxles are in production and available. Could you quote the price that you paid for yours and the importation source? | Alan:
Still waiting to get the final price on the Quaife (I haven't picked up the car yet). I should know in a couple of days and will follow-up with you.
Kim
__________________ Kim Petersen SPF GT40 P/2192 Mk I w/ Keith Craft Aluminum 427IR
F430 F1 Berlinetta
SPF Mk III w/ Ford 460
MB C55 "I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather; not screaming and terrified like his passengers." |
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06-23-08, 10:44 PM
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| | Cliffbeer2 2 Tenths 
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sand Point, WA GT40: CAV
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Rep Power: 4  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Kim, I've driven the 430 and been lucky enough to have a friend let me drive a 427 Roush powered SPF. The SPF is a heck of a lot more fun, and definitely a half-notch faster in a straight line provided your shifter linkage and transaxle is functioning smoothly. The SPF makes my 302 powered CAV feel slow.
One thing I'll say is that the 430 will break away pretty progressively and give you lots of warning - you probably know this well. And, there will be lots of electronic traction control gizmos helping to manage the situation - these are conspicuously absent in the SPF so best to be on your toes when you're in that 100mph+ decreasing radius bend... |
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06-23-08, 11:41 PM
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| | chuck 1 7 Tenths 
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: greenville,SC GT40: CAV
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 I will second that on the 427 powered SPF. Mine has the brutal acceleration of an FE powered cobra, except predictable and not tail happy.
__________________ chuck smith
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06-29-08, 10:35 AM
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| | CarlLaFong 
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wash,DC
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 I have been seriously thinking about buying a Superformance MK 1 GT40. Even with the many delays that many of you have endured during the roller to driver build process the end results speak for themselves. I have read the many positive things being said of Olthoff Racing and his staff, and hope that when the car finally delivered to you that this sentiment will be echoed (and if not why), as he would be my 1st choice to undertake this project . And after all is said and done and you have added up the purchase price and the final bill for the installation/mods and the waiting........would you do it again ?
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06-29-08, 11:22 AM
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| | kepetersen Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida GT40: SPF Mk I
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlLaFong I have read the many positive things being said of Olthoff Racing and his staff, and hope that when the car finally delivered to you that this sentiment will be echoed (and if not why), as he would be my 1st choice to undertake this project . And after all is said and done and you have added up the purchase price and the final bill for the installation/mods and the waiting........would you do it again ?
__________________ | I'm actually going to pick up the car later this week! (Of course, I've thought that before ...) The experience with Olthoff has been great so far, and now it's just a matter of settling up and driving my car from North Carolina to Florida – should be a great trip.
There are still some questions about the Quaife transmission, not least of which are the final costs. Information has not always been as timely as I'd like. As soon as I know more I'll let you know.
Kim
__________________ Kim Petersen SPF GT40 P/2192 Mk I w/ Keith Craft Aluminum 427IR
F430 F1 Berlinetta
SPF Mk III w/ Ford 460
MB C55 "I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather; not screaming and terrified like his passengers." |
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06-29-08, 12:31 PM
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| | Charlie Farley 2 Tenths 
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK:East Anglia GT40: The 'Baby' has
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Kim,
On that long drive home, i'll be happy thinking of you looking behind you, in that original rearview mirror ! By the way, what did you use to fix it to the windscreen ?
Have a fun and safe journey.
Regards.
Andy. |
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06-29-08, 03:03 PM
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| | jac mac 10 tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gore N.Z.
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Quote:
Originally Posted by kepetersen
There are still some questions about the Quaife transmission, not least of which are the final costs. Information has not always been as timely as I'd like. As soon as I know more I'll let you know.
Kim | That sort of comment creates more questions than answers!
__________________ Jac Mac,
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06-29-08, 11:11 PM
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| | kepetersen Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida GT40: SPF Mk I
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Quote:
Originally Posted by jac mac That sort of comment creates more questions than answers! | I don't mean to be cryptic; there are simply some details that I haven't fully received, including final costs. By Monday next I should have a complete report on the Quaife – and the car itself.
__________________ Kim Petersen SPF GT40 P/2192 Mk I w/ Keith Craft Aluminum 427IR
F430 F1 Berlinetta
SPF Mk III w/ Ford 460
MB C55 "I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather; not screaming and terrified like his passengers." |
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06-29-08, 11:18 PM
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| | kepetersen Rookie 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida GT40: SPF Mk I
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: 'Car & Driver' Magazine Test of P/2192 Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Farley Kim,
On that long drive home, i'll be happy thinking of you looking behind you, in that original rearview mirror ! By the way, what did you use to fix it to the windscreen ?
Have a fun and safe journey.
Regards.
Andy. | Andy:
I still have that perfect and original Lucas 608 rear view mirror you found for me! I decided to wait until I picked up the car to have it installed, and then only by a company that specializes in car windows/mirrors. I don't trust myself to do the job right, and I don't want my long-sought mirror crashing onto the shifter!
Thanks again for providing such great service. I hope the guys on the forum are aware of the plethora of original parts you've managed to scrounge. Anyone looking for authentic GT40 components would do well to contact you.
Kim
__________________ Kim Petersen SPF GT40 P/2192 Mk I w/ Keith Craft Aluminum 427IR
F430 F1 Berlinetta
SPF Mk III w/ Ford 460
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