An interesting point of view.

Pete McCluskey.

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Well I thought it was interesting....what say you?


This report by K. Myers appeared in The Irish Independent:
Somalia is not a humanitarian disaster; it is an evolutionary disaster. The current drought is not the worst in 50 years, as the BBC, and all the aid organisations claim. It is nothing compared to the droughts in 1960/61 or 73/74. And there are continuing droughts every 5 years or so. It's just that there are now four times the population; having been kept alive by famine relief, supplied by aid organisations, over the past 50 years. So, of course, the effects of any drought now, is a famine. They cannot even feed themselves in a normal rainfall year.

Worst yet, the effects of these droughts, and poor nutrition in the first 3 years of the a child's life, have a lasting effect on the development of the infant brain, so that if they survive, they will never achieve a normal IQ .
Consequently, they are selectively breeding a population, who cannot be educated, let alone one that is not being educated; a recipe for disaster.

We are seeing this impact now, and it can only exacerbate, to the detriment of their neighbours, and their environment as well. This scenario can only end in an even worse disaster; with even worse suffering, for those benighted people, and their descendants.

Eventually, some mechanism will intervene, be it war, disease or starvation .
So what do we do ? Let them starve ?

What a dilemma for our Judeo/ Christian/Islamic Ethos; as well as Hindu /Buddhist morality.

And this is beginning to happen in Kenya, Ethiopia, and other countries in Asia, like Pakistan.
Is this the beginning of the end of civilisation ?

AFRICA is giving nothing to anyone outside Africa -- apart from AIDS and new disease

Even as we see African states refusing to take action to restore something resembling civilisation in Zimbabwe, the Begging bowl for Ethiopia is being passed around to us out of Africa, yet again.

It is nearly 25 years since the famous Feed The World campaign began in Ethiopia, and in that time Ethiopia's population has grown from
33.5 million to 78+ million today.

So, why on earth should I do anything to encourage further catastrophic demographic growth in that country? Where is the logic? There is none.
To be sure, there are two things saying that logic doesn't count.

One is my conscience, and the other is the picture, yet again, of another wide-eyed child, yet again, gazing, yet again, at the camera, which yet again, captures the tragedy of children starving

Sorry. My conscience has toured this territory on foot and financially.
Unlike most of you, I have been to Ethiopia; like most of you, I have stumped up the loot to charities to stop starvation there.
The wide-eyed boy-child we saved, 20 years or so ago, is now a low IQ, AK 47-bearing moron, siring children whenever the whim takes him, and blaming the world because he is uneducated, poor en left behind.

There is no doubt a good argument why we should prolong this predatory and dysfunctional economic, social and sexual system; but I do not know what it is. There is, on the other hand, every reason not to write a column like this.

It will win no friends, and will provoke the self-righteous wrath of, well, the self-righteous, hand wringing, letter writing wrathful individuals, a species which never fails to contaminate almost every
debate in Irish life with its sneers and its moral superiority. It
will also probably enrage some of the finest men in Irish life, like John O'Shea, of Goal; and the Finucane brothers, men whom I admire enormously.
So be it.

But, please, please, you self-righteously wrathful, spare me mention of our own Irish Famine, with this or that lazy analogy. There is no comparison.
Within 20 years of the Famine, the Irish population was
down by 30%. Over the equivalent period, thanks to western food, the
Mercedes 10-wheel truck and the Lockheed Hercules planes, Ethiopia's population has more than doubled.

Alas, that wretched country is not alone in its madness. Somewhere, over the rainbow, lies Somalia, another fine land of violent, AK 47-toting, khat-chewing, girl-circumcising, permanently tumescent layabouts, and housing pirates of the ocean.

Indeed, we now have almost an entire continent of sexually hyperactive, illiterate indigents, with tens of millions of people who only survive because of help from the outside world or allowances by the semi communist Governments they voted for, money supplied by lending it from the World Bank!!!

This dependency has not stimulated political prudence or commonsense.

Indeed, voodoo idiocy seems to be in the ascendant, with the president of South Africa being a firm believer in the efficacy of a little tap water on the post-coital penis as a sure preventative against AIDS infection.

Needless to say, poverty, hunger and societal meltdown have not prevented idiotic wars involving Tigre, Uganda, Congo, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea etcetera.

Broad brush-strokes, to be sure. But broad brush-strokes are often the way that history paints its gaudier, if more decisive, chapters. Japan, China, Russia, Korea, Poland, Germany, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia in the 20th century have endured worse broad brush-strokes than almost any part of Africa.

They are now -- one way or another -- virtually all giving aid to or investing in Africa, whereas Africa, with its vast savannahs and its lush pastures, is giving almost nothing to anyone, apart from AIDS.

Meanwhile, Africa's peoples are outstripping their resources, and causing catastrophic ecological degradation. By 2050, the population of Ethiopia will be 177 million; the equivalent of France, Germany and Benelux today, but located on the parched and increasingly Protein-free wastelands of the Great Rift Valley.

So, how much sense does it make for us actively to increase the adult population of what is already a vastly over-populated, environmentally devastated and economically dependent country?

How much morality is there in saving an Ethiopian child from starvation today, for it to survive to a life of brutal circumcision, poverty, hunger, violence and sexual abuse, resulting in another half-dozen such wide-eyed children, with comparably jolly little lives ahead of them? Of course, it might make you feel better, which is a prime reason for so much charity.!
But that is not good enough.

For self-serving generosity has been one of the curses of Africa It has sustained political systems which would otherwise have collapsed.

It prolonged the Eritrean-Ethiopian war by nearly a decade. It is inspiring Bill Gates' programme to rid the continent of malaria, when, in the almost complete absence of personal self-discipline, that disease is one of the most efficacious forms of population-control now operating.

If his programme is successful, tens of millions of children who would otherwise have died in infancy will survive to adulthood, he boasts.

Oh good: then what? I know, let them all come here (to Ireland) or
America. (not forgetting Australia!) Yes, that's an idea.
 
Its really simple. Go the whole hog, remove their culture, industrialise the place and put them to work. Chucking a bit of food at them every few years is not helping and the corrupt fund raising activities of the organisers which is no longer a secret is hampering the aide attempts. Asbestos underwear is now installed fire away:laugh::stunned:

Bob
 

Keith

Moderator
Thought provoking Pete. It's true, this one way dispensation of 'aid' which brings no relief to the populations it allegedly goes to, only in the minds of the donors. It's like pushing shit uphill, eventually you're going to get it back in your face.

I'm not at all sure we ourselves can afford to be too smug either, we have to be eternally vigilant.

There area literally hundreds of Somalians here in London and their children, already versed in the deadly arts prior to arriving here are causing havoc on East London streets.

What's to be done, don't know but I no longer support this kind of overseas charity aid.

*During Live Aid Week in the '80's my 15 clubs and music venues all held live music sessions using some quite well known bands & faces and we raised something approaching £12,000 for Geldof's Charity. Most of his effort ended up getting stolen I understand with minimum logistics getting through to the people. We don't seem to have learned much, and they still haven't got much*

I thought we were doing something really good but now I think the problem is too big for my tiny mind.
 
Some very interesting views and quite thought provoking.

As far as the irresponsible behaviour of many (not all) african people and governments is concerned, I fully agree. Same applies to the waste of money by western governments.

However, some views seem to be that of an uninformed housewife:

AFRICA is giving nothing to anyone outside Africa -- apart from AIDS and new disease.
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They are now -- one way or another -- virtually all giving aid to or investing in Africa, whereas Africa, with its vast savannahs and its lush pastures, is giving almost nothing to anyone, apart from AIDS.


That continent has a large quantity of natural resources: Oil, diamonds, gold, iron, cobalt, uranium, copper, bauxite, silver, petroleum, cocoa beans, woods and tropical fruits.

Sudan's oil exports in 2010 alone are estimated by the US DOS at $9 billion USD. (Source: Wikipedia)

SHELL´s presence in Nigeria certainly cannot be explained by a sense of humanity let alone the Chinese currently buying up half of Africa.
 
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Keith

Moderator
Naturally, the British, German, French, Dutch and Belgian Colonialists were above all that....:smug2:
 
I've said it before, but the planet we inhabit, (even if we were to manage it's climate like the divine architect of the universe we seem to think we are a measure of), cannot, under any circumstance, support an infinite amount of inhabitants.

Sad as it may be, some people have to die. There was until very recently, a natural order to these things. Then, unfortunately, someone discovered the Left Wing and enough smug people with agenda's of their own, decided it would be great to make money by appearing to be helping those less fortunate.

Why is reality and truth, such a difficult, or immoral thing to admit to accept?
 
Naturally, the British, German, French, Dutch and Belgian Colonialists were above all that....:smug2:

They were at least civilised which is more than can be said for the terrorist`s that rampage through most of Africa today. Until they are eradicated aide to these regions is a total waste of time and resources. Perhaps the fund managers would get better results employing private armies.

Bob
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
My wife once worked briefly for a well known charity, after directors fees, company cars, travel expenses, salaries and wages only a minuscule amount actually went to the needy.
 
No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.
 
On the contrary Frazer

platoon enter disguised as a choir, singing "All Things Bright and Beautiful"]
Cpt. George Mainwaring: Frazer, get behind him.
Sgt. Arthur Wilson: And I will get his gun.
L. Cpl. Jack Jones: And I will take my bayonet, and stick it up his...

Which in my opinion is the best thing that could happen to K. Myers :)
 
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