Howard Jones
Supporter
Other's here have said it very clearly. SB100 will allow you to put any engine in it you want along with its smog stuff and declare the model year of the car the same as the year the engine was manufactured. OR you can declare the model year the same as the body of the car and put any year engine in it. IE, 1965 GT40, Cobra Etc. You can see the benefit of a old body style.
You can also see the benefits of each. If you have a GT40 kit you can use the body year (1965)and put anything you want to into it as far as engine goes. If you have a modern kit you can put any engine into it you want as long as the COMPLETE smog equipment package is present for the year of the engine. 1965 SBF, SBC, Etc = no smog stuff.
By the way when you are done the car will be registered as a 2009 Specially constructed vehicle and therefor smog exempt if you use a old body style not a 1965 whatever. I know of no way to do that... make it a 1965 whatever.
If you have a old engine without any smog requirements you can put it in but you will need to get it smog checked every couple of years like everyone else. This is the reason you want a SB100 tag. No further Smog involvement.
The Smog rev's will be able to identify the engine year, so don't try that one, it won't work.
As far as a SLC goes, or a Ultima for that matter, you could put a pre 65 engine into it and have no smog requirements based of the 1965 engine. OR you can put a modern engine (LS7) into it and add the required smog stuff. Not so bad really. I would think that the cats would be the only thing negative. Oh and 1965 327's will make plenty of power by the way. 450HP easy.
Now as far as the other thing goes. No know body type. I don't know anybody who has done it that way. But if you get rejected by the smog ref then you will have to do it one of the other ways. The SB100 ticket is only good for the year in which it is issued so you can't screw around with this. Git er done! It can also only be used on a vehicle that has NEVER been registered ever. I would go with a old engine in a SLC or a old body in a GT40.
By the way.... once you have a completed registration under SB100 you NEVER go back to the smog people again. If you blow the motor you can replace it.....................
Now as far as the opening day goes. YOU MUST BE THE FIRST ONE IN LINE AT YOUR LOCAL DMV ON THE 1ST DATE THAT THE DMV IS OPEN IN THE CALENDAR YEAR. Get up early, drive over there and wait. I got there at 5am for a 8am open. I beat the second guy by 10 mins. By 6:30 am there were 10 people in line. ALL THE TICKETS IN THE STATE WILL BE GONE BY 10AM. If you can, go to a DMV that knows the SB100 drill. If you go to some out in the woods DMV then you might waste the time getting them up to speed on what you are trying to do. The main DMV's all know the drill and if you are 1st in line (maybe first 3 would be OK) you will get one pretty much for sure. By the way there are about a 100 DMV's statewide.
Forget any other method. The appointment thing WILL NOT WORK!!!! The early bird gets the worm. Find a DMV and a DMV employee, that knows what up and work with them getting things DONE in advance of the big day. You must have ALL the paperwork with you and complete when you walk up to the window. If you walk away from the window you will wait until next year.... for sure. Build a folder with everything in it that has anything to do with the car that is on paper. Even take most of you recites with you for parts. There is no such thing as too much paperwork at the DMV. Sort it so that you can get out the stuff that you think you need at the window and put the rest aside in case you need it. Take it ALL up to the window. Remember you can't go out to the car and get it. You'll never get your spot back.
None of this is hard. 500 people do it right every year. You have plenty of time. Just do you homework and you will be fine. I went in one final time in early December with all my papers just to check with the girl at the DMV. She said "It's all here, see you next year"
The best part is after you are done you will have a completely legal car. Way cool!!!!
I should add that the state of California has a ongoing investigation of fraud involving out of state phoney or otherwise illegal registration stuff. Don't be tempted by any other "easy way". You'll get caught and they might not be nice about it and let you do it over again. There have been 1000's of involuntary surrender of title, registration and plates so far. I think the days of pay us and start over..... are over.
You can also see the benefits of each. If you have a GT40 kit you can use the body year (1965)and put anything you want to into it as far as engine goes. If you have a modern kit you can put any engine into it you want as long as the COMPLETE smog equipment package is present for the year of the engine. 1965 SBF, SBC, Etc = no smog stuff.
By the way when you are done the car will be registered as a 2009 Specially constructed vehicle and therefor smog exempt if you use a old body style not a 1965 whatever. I know of no way to do that... make it a 1965 whatever.
If you have a old engine without any smog requirements you can put it in but you will need to get it smog checked every couple of years like everyone else. This is the reason you want a SB100 tag. No further Smog involvement.
The Smog rev's will be able to identify the engine year, so don't try that one, it won't work.
As far as a SLC goes, or a Ultima for that matter, you could put a pre 65 engine into it and have no smog requirements based of the 1965 engine. OR you can put a modern engine (LS7) into it and add the required smog stuff. Not so bad really. I would think that the cats would be the only thing negative. Oh and 1965 327's will make plenty of power by the way. 450HP easy.
Now as far as the other thing goes. No know body type. I don't know anybody who has done it that way. But if you get rejected by the smog ref then you will have to do it one of the other ways. The SB100 ticket is only good for the year in which it is issued so you can't screw around with this. Git er done! It can also only be used on a vehicle that has NEVER been registered ever. I would go with a old engine in a SLC or a old body in a GT40.
By the way.... once you have a completed registration under SB100 you NEVER go back to the smog people again. If you blow the motor you can replace it.....................
Now as far as the opening day goes. YOU MUST BE THE FIRST ONE IN LINE AT YOUR LOCAL DMV ON THE 1ST DATE THAT THE DMV IS OPEN IN THE CALENDAR YEAR. Get up early, drive over there and wait. I got there at 5am for a 8am open. I beat the second guy by 10 mins. By 6:30 am there were 10 people in line. ALL THE TICKETS IN THE STATE WILL BE GONE BY 10AM. If you can, go to a DMV that knows the SB100 drill. If you go to some out in the woods DMV then you might waste the time getting them up to speed on what you are trying to do. The main DMV's all know the drill and if you are 1st in line (maybe first 3 would be OK) you will get one pretty much for sure. By the way there are about a 100 DMV's statewide.
Forget any other method. The appointment thing WILL NOT WORK!!!! The early bird gets the worm. Find a DMV and a DMV employee, that knows what up and work with them getting things DONE in advance of the big day. You must have ALL the paperwork with you and complete when you walk up to the window. If you walk away from the window you will wait until next year.... for sure. Build a folder with everything in it that has anything to do with the car that is on paper. Even take most of you recites with you for parts. There is no such thing as too much paperwork at the DMV. Sort it so that you can get out the stuff that you think you need at the window and put the rest aside in case you need it. Take it ALL up to the window. Remember you can't go out to the car and get it. You'll never get your spot back.
None of this is hard. 500 people do it right every year. You have plenty of time. Just do you homework and you will be fine. I went in one final time in early December with all my papers just to check with the girl at the DMV. She said "It's all here, see you next year"
The best part is after you are done you will have a completely legal car. Way cool!!!!
I should add that the state of California has a ongoing investigation of fraud involving out of state phoney or otherwise illegal registration stuff. Don't be tempted by any other "easy way". You'll get caught and they might not be nice about it and let you do it over again. There have been 1000's of involuntary surrender of title, registration and plates so far. I think the days of pay us and start over..... are over.
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