Carbon fibre tub??

I too disagree with calling a tub a monocoque. A monocoque is a stressed-skin chassis design...incorporates the skin into the structure. Much like every modern aircraft. A uni-body car more closely fits the definition of a monocoque chassis than a flat-panel frame does.

If a company offered a prosthetic device that had been designed by a doctor...would you say it was great? Especially considering the doc is an ear/nose/throat specialist...and has absolutely no experience as a materials engineer, an ergonomics expert, a kinematics expert or in physiology? I offer that it might be great...or it might be the marketing hype frosting on a dog-turd cake.

As said before, an F1 team consists of many individuals. An F1 engineer doesn't make him specifically a chassis man. So the engineer whose specialty is telemetry integration, is NOT the individual I want designing a chassis.

If one were to brag about the fact of having a product engineered by a professional from a certain field to lend credence to its lineage...why not go one better and also use said individual's name, not merely their professional title? Then I could make a better decision based on knowledge and experience with their successes. Otherwise it merely sounds like a celebrity endorsement...some are paid, others are earned.
 

Keith

Moderator
Holy Crap Batman, all I said was that it (TSC Carbon Fibre Dinner Plate)seemed to be a great addition to the market.

What do I know?

Incidentally, I went to buy a classic semi displacement fishing boat today. The seller said it was 31' but I measured it and found out it was 30 ft 11 1/2" so I told him to fuck off.
 
Holy Crap Batman, all I said was that it (TSC Carbon Fibre Dinner Plate)seemed to be a great addition to the market.

What do I know?

Incidentally, I went to buy a classic semi displacement fishing boat today. The seller said it was 31' but I measured it and found out it was 30 ft 11 1/2" so I told him to fuck off.

:lol:

I was going to make my first post a question about the CF chassis....but i dont think ill bother!

Hi anyway,

Just looking at the minute but interested in a TSC kit WITH the CF chassis. Ill be back with questions when you have all calmed down :thumbsup:rockonsmile
 

Andy Sheldon

Tornado Sports Cars
GT40s Sponsor
Onzlouk

Any questions you have please ask or call the factory.

Keith

Thanks for the support.

I am sure that if the roof section was intended to be structural to any great extent Ford would not have cut 2 great wacking holes in it for door tops. Sort of defeats the object.

As for subframes carrying suspension and engine loads I will be on the telephone Monday to Bugatti , Mclaren and Koenigsegg to tell them they have all got it wrong.

Thanks

Andy
 
If the load paths are engineered correctly, those 2 stonking holes will spread the load around them properly...

As for engine and transmission taking the loads vs. subframes, if your engine block/transmission case isn't designed to carry these loads...as yours ISN'T...then it is indeed wrong. As some of the companies you noted do indeed use components specifically engineered for this task, not a problem.

Koenigsegg uses a CIMA/GearFox box which is designed to carry the loads. The Macca F1 uses a box originally designed by Weismann to carry the loads. Bugatti uses a Ricardo box which is NOT designed to carry the loads.

Not all of the members on this forum are newbies looking to spend cash. Some of us work in the industry, or are very connected to members in the industry and can unravel the mystery quite quickly.

This isn't an attack, just an effort to provide factual evidence, rather than march to the beat of a hype machine. ;)

Onzlouk

Any questions you have please ask or call the factory.

Keith

Thanks for the support.

I am sure that if the roof section was intended to be structural to any great extent Ford would not have cut 2 great wacking holes in it for door tops. Sort of defeats the object.

As for subframes carrying suspension and engine loads I will be on the telephone Monday to Bugatti , Mclaren and Koenigsegg to tell them they have all got it wrong.

Thanks

Andy
 
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything...?

Are you suggesting lack of ownership means I have no knowledge or experience?

Engineering and materials apply in any field they are used...aerospace, racing, production, buildings, bridges, etc.

As to my mid-engine "cred", I am building a F5 GTM. I have built and still own a V8/6 speed Fiero, a 914-6 that appeared in Excellence magazine, a 95 MR2 running the 3.4L SHO V8 and a Getrag 6-speed from the Mondeo. I've also helped a guy stab a 4.0 UFZ (Toyota) V8 in a Delorean running the Derek Bell UN1 6-speed upgrade.


Hey WYLD,
What GT40 is in your garage???????
 
I did not mean to offend. My current drive is a F5 Daytona coupe. With a 1912 Stanley Steamer as a long term driver. I was just surprised with the whole negative tone of your post. I restore Rolls Royce and vintage Bentleys for a living so I know where you are coming from as far as what should be or should not . We can not always go down the original path as that is not always an option.
Bill
 
Damn. I was reading all the info and debate about F1 technology, carbon fiber, etc., etc. Guys this isn’t rocket science. Just call the factory that most of these HyperCar brands use. They’ll even do the tub for you. They do design work for Ferrari. I’ll see if I can find the article. Biggest secret in F1 and car design. Lol

 

Brian Kissel

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Armyman. Please change your name to your real name. It’s a requirement you agreed to when signing up for the forum.

Regards Brian
 
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