Some of us here got a bollocking from the usual suspects last time this was brought up and unusually, I remembered the subject for long enough to record some empirical 'evidence'.
AS I recall, the Home Office played down the impact of Romania/Bulgarian net immigration into the UK and made a guestimate that no more than "around 50,000 - 60,000 would apply for entry in the first year while the strict controls are in place.
Have a read of this. DOUBLE what they said and the controls will soon be coming off. Enough already!
BBC News - Romanians and Bulgarians working in UK up 26%
I am not blaming Romanians/Bulgarians, but they should not seek to flee their country to seek 'economic salvation' just because an unelected undemocratic body in Brussels have said they can or worse, that they SHOULD.
There has always been migration of economic labour right across the globe since forever. In search of trade or fleeing from oppression. This is correct, natural and in the end humane.
What we have in the EEC in my (admittedly fairly uneducated) opinion, is a major case of official ethnic cleansing - a homogenising and melding of European tribes for quite sinister reasons. Social Engineering at it's extreme apogee.
How better to ease the pain of corrupt and inefficient regimes by holding up the welcome mat of a fellow state that can freely offer all the succour and financial aid these poor hard done by migrants need, by virtue of the graft of it's (OUR) own citizens over hundreds of years.
Let me out this another way. If every 'able bodied, fit, intelligent, willing Romanian and Bulgarian left their homelands to find their fortunes in another country stayed at home and worked their bollocks off to achieve the standard of living we have, their world & the whole of Europe would be a much better place and they wouldn't have to go around the world with their begging bowls would they? How long into the 21st bloody century with all these untold billions in the hands of the People are we going to have to accept encouraged human labour trafficking?
Economic migration might get our airport toilets cleaner but the money leaves the country to help build the large houses back in the 'home country' that's so poor they have to burn the furniture to keep warm.
The economics of this just does not work. This is a Franco German nightmare. Napoleon and Hitler in perfect harmony.
Nobody GAVE the British People their Welfare State and standard of living - we not only worked our socks off for it, but we managed to have lost almost 2 million people in the past 95 years on the battlefields of EUROPE and the FAR EAST defending that way of living, and yet what we have here, is a new bunch of economic immigrants who fought on the side of Nazi Germany and quit as soon as they saw the winning hand fold.
It is right & proper to offer a helping hand to less fortunate people, but as well as sending them large amounts if cash we are bringing them into our houses and having them eat off our table too.
They are here, not of necessity but as a result of this monstrous bureaucracy's desire to see Britain humbled in a humiliating manner by this 'encouraged' continuous migration. Old European jealousies still rule, and inherited hatred of Britain's past achievements still drives many political 3 wheel carts today - literally. There is no way that half of the membership of the EEC meet the original financial criteria - another clasic oiece of fiscal fudging to solve one nation' sproblems at another's expense.
Bloody Socialists!
This is not racism, this is a plea to defend my tribe. All are welcome but I love this country and I will never leave it and run away to another. If it is fucked I will fix it but I will NEVER take another man's bread to put on MY table.
Pick the bones out of that all you miserable grey minded (anti) social engineers/community killers!
That is all.
(E&OE)
AS I recall, the Home Office played down the impact of Romania/Bulgarian net immigration into the UK and made a guestimate that no more than "around 50,000 - 60,000 would apply for entry in the first year while the strict controls are in place.
Have a read of this. DOUBLE what they said and the controls will soon be coming off. Enough already!
BBC News - Romanians and Bulgarians working in UK up 26%
I am not blaming Romanians/Bulgarians, but they should not seek to flee their country to seek 'economic salvation' just because an unelected undemocratic body in Brussels have said they can or worse, that they SHOULD.
There has always been migration of economic labour right across the globe since forever. In search of trade or fleeing from oppression. This is correct, natural and in the end humane.
What we have in the EEC in my (admittedly fairly uneducated) opinion, is a major case of official ethnic cleansing - a homogenising and melding of European tribes for quite sinister reasons. Social Engineering at it's extreme apogee.
How better to ease the pain of corrupt and inefficient regimes by holding up the welcome mat of a fellow state that can freely offer all the succour and financial aid these poor hard done by migrants need, by virtue of the graft of it's (OUR) own citizens over hundreds of years.
Let me out this another way. If every 'able bodied, fit, intelligent, willing Romanian and Bulgarian left their homelands to find their fortunes in another country stayed at home and worked their bollocks off to achieve the standard of living we have, their world & the whole of Europe would be a much better place and they wouldn't have to go around the world with their begging bowls would they? How long into the 21st bloody century with all these untold billions in the hands of the People are we going to have to accept encouraged human labour trafficking?
Economic migration might get our airport toilets cleaner but the money leaves the country to help build the large houses back in the 'home country' that's so poor they have to burn the furniture to keep warm.
The economics of this just does not work. This is a Franco German nightmare. Napoleon and Hitler in perfect harmony.
Nobody GAVE the British People their Welfare State and standard of living - we not only worked our socks off for it, but we managed to have lost almost 2 million people in the past 95 years on the battlefields of EUROPE and the FAR EAST defending that way of living, and yet what we have here, is a new bunch of economic immigrants who fought on the side of Nazi Germany and quit as soon as they saw the winning hand fold.
It is right & proper to offer a helping hand to less fortunate people, but as well as sending them large amounts if cash we are bringing them into our houses and having them eat off our table too.
They are here, not of necessity but as a result of this monstrous bureaucracy's desire to see Britain humbled in a humiliating manner by this 'encouraged' continuous migration. Old European jealousies still rule, and inherited hatred of Britain's past achievements still drives many political 3 wheel carts today - literally. There is no way that half of the membership of the EEC meet the original financial criteria - another clasic oiece of fiscal fudging to solve one nation' sproblems at another's expense.
Bloody Socialists!
This is not racism, this is a plea to defend my tribe. All are welcome but I love this country and I will never leave it and run away to another. If it is fucked I will fix it but I will NEVER take another man's bread to put on MY table.
Pick the bones out of that all you miserable grey minded (anti) social engineers/community killers!
That is all.
(E&OE)