Pyramid of speed - what level are you?

The Bottom Level of the Pyramid of Speed
Street Racers:
These are the yahoos that you see trying to do smoky burnouts on city streets.
They look around for deserted industrial areas so they can "Race" each other
in a straight line. They think NOS is cool. They think "Fast and Furious" is
a shoe-in for an Oscar, both for best picture, best actor, and best
documentary. They post on various Internet BBS boards short stories talking
about their "Kills", where they went 0-60 faster than some other car on busy
city streets.

Favorite type of woman: Any sixteen year old female who hangs out at those
Import car shows and will show some skin, never mind that her skin is pimply.

Favorite Magazine: Import Tuner. Sport Compact Car. Turbo Digest. NOS
World.

Level 2 of the Pyramid of Speed

Freeway Racers:
Next to the bottom are these guys. They frown upon Street Racers, thinking
that Street Racers are 0-80 mph wimps. Instead, Freeway Racers think that
they are cool, as they go 120+ mph and weave in and out of traffic on the
highway like a bunch of morons on crystal meth. The problem is that these
boneheads have spent money to make their car a little faster and a little
noisier than usual, but they forgot one thing: they are going at dangerously
high speeds and they have itty bitty front brakes, small rear drum brakes, and
they have never attended a go-fast driving school. They forgot the Stop-Fast
parts when they modified their cars. Not good when Sally Homemaker in her
6000 lbs SUV makes a lane change at 55 mph without signaling and without
looking for cars coming up on her at triple digit speeds. They post on
various BBS boards about their "Kills", where they passed some guy driving a
more expensive car at 110 mph, saying that they knew that "Name_your_Car"
drivers can't drive worth a crap.

Favorite type of woman: Any female that is impressed by them driving 100 mph
with a beer in their hand, a joint in the other, and no seat belt on.
Needless to say, these guys are usually dateless.

Favorite magazine: High Times. Mad Magazine.

Level 3 of the Pyramid of Speed
1/4 Mile Drag Racers
Next up are the 1/4 mile drag racers. These guys are at least smart enough to
take their cars to a formal race track where there are rules, safety
regulations, and ambulances for when they crash because they can't figure out
how to drive in a straight line. They look down upon the Freeway "Racers" and
Street "Racers" as a bunch of immature folks who don't have enough sense to
take their need for speed to their local 1/4 mile drag strip. Instead, these
1/4 mile geeks spend their life trying to break the 12 second barrier in their
souped up street cars. Sometimes they might even get four runs in a day, and
at 13 seconds a run, this means they spent the whole day at the track for 52
seconds of "racing" fun. Kinda like spending $200 on a dinner date, and
having premature ejaculation at the dinner table.

Favorite type of woman: Any female that has teeth.

Favorite magazine: Hot Rod, Car Craft, Hemi World.


Level 4 of the Pyramid of Speed
Autocrossers
Next, we have the autocrossers, a special breed among themselves. They frown
on the illegal freeway and street racers as wreckless morons. They laugh at
the 1/4 mile Drag Racers, as those goons can only go fast in a straight line.
Hell, you can probably get a monkey or an 90 year old grandmother than can
stomp on the gas and make three shifts in 12 seconds without crashing.
Reaction speed of drag racers on the start? Shit....reaction speed to
autocrossers is learning a 15 turn autocross course the first time by driving
out there and not hitting any freaking cones, and making some dramatic
left-right-left turns without spinning out (despite the fact that they are
going at a blazing 35 mph!)

Favorite type of woman: A female who has the whole day to burn, and can stand
a safety cone upright, as they sucker them into being cone-corner workers.

Favorite magazine: The SCCA's SportsCar magazine and the SCCA FastTrack, so
they can obey the Rule Nazi's and read and interpret drivel such as this.
These guys actually like reading a book of rules about how to go around cones
at 35 mph!


Level 5 of the Pyramid of Speed
Time Trialers
Next, we have the Time Trialers, meaning the people that who take their car to
road racing courses. Also known as "lapping days". These people are thrown
on a road racing track with about 20 other cars, and they are only allowed to
pass in the straightaways. They look down upon the illegal Street "Racers"
and Freeway "Racers" for obvious reasons. They laugh at the drag racers who
can only go in the straight line. They shake their head at the autocrossers,
as why would someone want to spend all day in a parking lot to do five runs on
a 15 turn course lined with safety cones, and each run only lasts 60 seconds
and you never get out of 2nd gear? Hell, at a Time Trial event or lapping
day, you may get 60+ laps around a world famous road course, which is 30 times
more "seat time" than you get in autocrossing! Plus, in autocrossing, they
may disallow your time because your tire is a quarter inch too wide, or you
put a different brake pad on, or your springs on your car are a half inch too
low. Autocross is racing, but racing Tailbone-style, with 1000's of rules of
what you can do or not do.

Favorite type of woman: Females who think that their man is a "Racer", since
his car actually made it to the pavement of a race track. Never mind that the
dude spun his car four times in one day and got dust all over the interior of
the car. She is convinced that she dates "Macho Racer".

Favorite Magazine: Road and Track, Car and Driver, Automobile, Motor Trend.


The Top Level of the Pyramid of Speed
Wheel-to-Wheel Racers
The Wheel-to-Wheel racers are at the top of the pyramid. They have big heads,
big egos, they think they are cool, and they can be tremendously
condescending. Some even have the gall to have their own website touting
their latest "racing adventures". They think Street Racers are ricockulous,
and that the Fast and The Furious is the second stupidest movie they ever
seen, with Driven being the stupidest. Freeway racers are viewed as unskilled
morons, but Wheel-to-Wheel racers have been known to occasionally "bait" the
Freeway Racers into following them through an off ramp at triple digits
speeds, and when the Freeway Racer suddenly realizes that he can't control his
car that fast in a turn, the Freeway Racer panics, hits the brakes hard while
turning, and ends up spinning and crashing into the guard rail, while the
Wheel-to-Wheel racer looks in his rear view mirror, and calmly puts another
mark on his dashboard, keeping score of "reverse-kills". 1/4 Mile Drag racers
are viewed as unskilled folks who can only shift up, and cannot figure out how
to master a proper heel-and-toe downshift without grinding the tranny.
Autocrossers are viewed as cross dressers who think that danger and excitement
is narrowly missing a plastic safety cone by two inches at 35 mph, and live by
a rule book about their car specs that is bigger than the Bible. There is a
lot of risk and danger in autocrossing.....hell, if you screw up, you could
end up with a couple of plastic safety cones tangled up in your front grill.
Does Michael Schumacher autocross? Would he ever spend time dodging safety
cones? Did Kimi Raikonen make it to Formula One as a nineteen year old by
driving solo in a parking lot? Hell no, Kimi made the leap to Formula One
because he was the karting champ of Finland, doing wheel-to-wheel shifter
karts, not by driving around stationary cones. If autocross was really
exciting, you would see the Cone Dodger's National Championships on ESPN or
Speedvision. But no use having an autocross on TV because, uh...quite
frankly, no one cares.....
Time trialers are viewed as chumps that can't figure out how to control their
car well enough to maneuver in between two other cars at 100 mph in a turn
without causing a three car wreck. For it is only the Wheel-To-Wheel racer
that put their car within inches of an apex at 110 mph, can brake within
inches of their target braking point at 140 mph at the last possible instant
without locking up the brakes into ABS or flat spotting tires, that can be
within inches of another car's door going into a 100+ mph turn and fighting
for position on the pavement, and can control understeer or oversteer with the
pedal to the metal coming out of an apex and using the last inch of pavement
exiting out of a turn to keep the car from spinning off into the dirt or into
surrounding cement walls. If a wheel-to-wheel racer makes a mistake, his car
will probably be severely wrecked, other cars could be wrecked, and he could
potentially take out half the cars entered in the event with him going into
Turn 1 at the start of a race.

Favorite type of women: Hot, sexy women who know that all the other "racers"
in the lower levels of the Pyramid of Speed are all really just
"wanna-be-wheel-to-wheel racers". A woman with a good stock portfolio is
highly desirable, because Wheel-to-Wheel racing is ahhh.....about five times
more expensive than any other level on the Pyramid, as your car will break
down more, the parts you need to go fast are more expensive, you blow through
rear tires every weekend, you probably have to have a truck and trailer to tow
the car, you need an extensive pit crew help to keep the car running that that
you over modified in your thermonuclear war with other people to get to the
top of the podium.

Favorite Magazine: Autoweek, as each week they have in depth coverage of the
only true sport left in the world, which is Formula One wheel-to-wheel racing.
Everything else in life is just a game......
So the question remains: Where do you fit on the Pyramid of Speed? For all
you people who are already hooked on "Go-Fast Crack Pipe", just bite the
bullet, throw a roll cage in your car, learn how to control your car a little
better, and let's battle it out on the top level of the Pyramid, and let's
look down upon all the other "pseudo-racers" from our perch in the
Pyramid.....
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I'll admit to participating at levels 1 through 4 at various times during my life, and to some extent still do today. I have yet to OT a car (US phraseology for Open Track or Lapping Days) and I honestly can't see myself racing competetively at any point in the future, at least not here in the US (still thinking about that transfer to the UK in a couple years).

Wait, what about Grand Prix Legends? I've had many wheel-to-wheel battles with the likes of Jim Clark, Bruce McLaren and Jackie Icxx through the esses of Watkins Glen, the Parabolica at Monza and the Masta kink at Spa. Does that count?
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Regards,
Mark
Has a lovely wife and subscribes to The Boston Globe and Sport Aviation

[ September 19, 2002: Message edited by: Mark Worthington ]
 
Chip,

I too have roadraced shifter karts (and other things, but always went back to karts) for 25+ years, mostly out west (Riverside, Ontario, RIP). You started in '58? Either you musta started awful young, or .......well, I won't go there :) Have you run Daytona? We've got a roadrace scheduled at The California Speedway at the beginning of next year. Gordon Levy was telling me of his outing at Willow Springs in his 40......His best lap was same as my shifter kart's best lap of 1:28. You're right, the karts can be very quick, and nearly unbeatable at some of the shorter tracks.

The pyramid: Catagories within the levels (except 1&2) probably define all that other stuff. Pro level drag race pits are a pretty interesting place, though personally I prefer the pits at a CART or ALMS race. BTW, this weekend's ALMS race at Laguna is including the world Super Kart Challenge. Eddie Lawson's 250 Unlimited kart ran a 1:26.5 there at the last event. Anyway, I see the humor in the levels, and have also been a participant in a few "questionable" activities in my youth. Oh, and some of those pimply faced girls turned into some mightly fine women!

Andy
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> Wheel-to-Wheel racers have been known to occasionally "bait" the Freeway Racers into following them through an off ramp at triple digits speeds <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Heh-heh. Akkana Peck tried that to me once. Going from southbound 280 to highway 85 in the bay area, for those who know that ramp. She had her Yokohamas on her autocross Fiat and simply didn't slow down (it's probably posted at 25MPH). I don't know if she knew who I was (we had met before) or even if she was trying to bait me vs. always taking turns at over twice the posted limit. I was almost able to keep up, though she did gain a little ground (I was on street tires and a little closer to the limit than I like to be on the street)...

I guess I'm about a 5.75, but semi-retired for a couple of years now.

[ September 19, 2002: Message edited by: Steve Toner ]
 
Level 3 & 4 (mostly). HAve raced go-karts since 1958 (yes, children). Won my class in 40 and over last full season out. Have an asphalt roadrace kart track south of Atlanta (BArnesville, GA) that has been there as long as I have been racing. Have one leg of the season WKA Nationals there each spring: one for 2 cycles and a few weeks later the 4 cycles. Draw about 80 plus karts fm all over the country.( WKA=World Karting Association) But I started on dirt ovals in Ohio. Nothing like wheel-to-wheel competition. makes one appreciate the professionals. Karting is a great way to start. MAny Pros have started in Karts (Lake Speed, John Surtees). Karts can lap many tracks (Roebling, Savannah, GA ) near the track record for ALL cars! cb
 
One could question the relative placement of Level 3 and 4 (maybe the same level) as I have seen some pretty fast and sophisticated ¼ milers. It all depends I guess...
 

Jim Rosenthal

Supporter
You left out land speed record drivers. What category are they in?
Actually, there should be a separate category for put-down artists who think every other kind of racing but theirs is an activity for idiots. Here in Annapolis, we have a group of people whose thinking is roughly similar to that. We call them sailboaters. They think every way but theirs is pointless.
Me, I would be happy to be autocrossing to start with; I've never driven anything in competition. I suspect I'm not the only one on this forum who's never turned a wheel in a race. I hope to someday, but I am not going to start with a GT40. I guess meanwhile, I am lower than level one in your hierarchy. Maybe level 0.5 or something like that. Maybe I should stick to boats. There's no speed limit out there and everyone obeys the rules a lot better than they do on land.
 
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Level 5 for me. I would like to go higher but my eyesight failed the MSA requirements for uncorrected vision. Stupid rule, must have come from an Autocross manual some place.

Wendy fancies wheel to wheel racing (!) so I think we shall have a season at pro karting (4 stroke twin engined karts) in a couple of years time so she can go for it. If she takes to it well, then she might consider Historic FF in the Lotus.

Jules, where are you on this list? Definately level 5 as we are seeing you tomorrow at Longleat. However didn't you race a Caterham before? That would make you level 2!

Malcolm
 
Yep, level 5 for me too. Used to to a bit of rallying years ago.

These days with 350BHP and 4WD, every set of lights, or twisty sections are always fun in the wet. Especially if a hipower RWD TVR or such like fancies his chances.

regards

PaulT
 
I run in Group 7 (hsr/svra) with the GTP cars. Only problem is I don't drive a GTP car, or p car as they are called. I drive a center seat Can AM With gobs of power and no good way to transmit it to the ground. Bobby Rayhal or Keke Rosberg could keep up with the p cars in my car, but alas, I can not. I want to live. There is a whole pyramid deal that forms up on any starting grid. Who is serious, who is nervous, who will take it closest to the edge. Well, not me. I come in 4th or fifth a lot.
This is a big problem with the gt40's that vintage race in the US. they are put in group 7 and have to run against much newer machines, such as Nissan GTP R93c (1993 & newer) Lemans racers capable of doing 40 miles per hour faster speeds on the straights, and with active underbody ground effects that stick them to the track like they are glued. Older High powered cars are capable of following these newer cars into a corner at the same or higher speed, but "slide off" as the newer car disappears into the distance.
 
Spyderman, What car do you drive? I do run some vintage Can-Am every once in a while, here in the west, and they are one of my favorites to race.
 
Gordon, I hope you have recovered from the fall through the roof.
I race a Lola/Chevy T332cs and a Lola/Ford T596/8. At least, I drive them in races.....
I also run a group 6 (svra)Mustang, really fun . I am loading up the trailer now hoping the hurricane does not spoil the race this weekend in Savannah, Georgia, at the Roebling Road Raceway, a 1959 2.2 mile roadrace course. We just got drenched two weeks ago at the Atlanta Historic races at Road Atlanta. I wish I was smart enough to post a picture, but rats, I don't know what a url host is exactly, and I only have one picture of the car anyway, hardly seems important enough to set up some sort of photo account for.
Get well soon.
Spydee

[ September 23, 2002: Message edited by: spyderman ]

[ September 23, 2002: Message edited by: spyderman ]
 
Are you in the Atlanta area? If so let a couple of us know and maybe we can get together for one of the races. I was at Road Atlanta on Saturday. Probably saw you but didn't know you. Chip was there Sunday.

Anyway posting pic is really easy.
1. Go to www. imagestation.com
2. Set up an account, follow the directions and upload a picute and create an album and transfer the pic to the album.
3. You are now ready to "link" the pic to any web site. To find out the url, view the image you want to post, right click the image, select properties, in the window that pops up highlight the url code (left click,hold it down and drag it over the code it should be darkened )
4. Right click the darkened code, select copy.
5. Open the forum, write your message and at the place you want to insert your picture, select image from the UBB Code below your message, window will open at top, click on it, now right click, select paste.

Thats all there is to it.
Bill
 
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Julian

I can't resist a good topic.

so is this a cut-and-paste effort or is this you own work?

I would say that on any level you can have any level of participant from gomers to super-men. It all depends on fate, talent and economics.

Street/Highway Racers

Let's first discuss the entry level. I would lump street and freeway racers together, they are one and the same. To illustrate my point on multiple skill levels at every level let me tell the story of an old friend of mine, who will be given an alias to protect the guilty.

John had a '69 Chevelle with a built up big block with 12 to 1's, aviation fuel, and a lot of guts or craziness depending how you look at it. One time on a dare and a bet he participated in a race against another muscle car. It was 120 miles from Albuquerque to Taos. If you aren't familiar it's about half long and hilly straight sections and half tightly curving canyon roads where it follows the rio grande, it has a lot of steep hills and also goes through several towns with stoplights. They did it very late at night about 2:00 am on a tuesday night. On the straights they were going in excess of 140mph. It was neck and neck most of the way, passing back and forth but John pulled ahead near the end. There's a long steep hill just before you get to Taos and the other guy overheated. John had a dump truck radiator installed so he went on to win.

Don't try this at home now, this was in the late 70's and law enforcement is a little bit different now.

Another time John impressed me was at Malibu Grand Prix. Are they still around? It was/is a national franchise rental go-kart track where you race against the clock. After about 5 times around the track John broke the fastest lap time by a considerable margin. His record stood for at least a year. Although John never participated in any sanctioned racing, for several reasons, I don't doubt he would have done well if he had.

John ended up flipping and totaling his Chevelle at high speed, but that's a whole 'nother story. Well ok... John was making a run out to the gorge bridge (Taos) a long straight-away at night at over 140mph of course. So at night he's overdriving his headlights to say the least. He hits a rock with the left front, the tire blows and the CAST allow mag shreds. (big lesson here). He says he saw chunks of the mag go spitting past the window before the brake rotor dug in and the car flipped and rolled about 5 times ending up on the roof. So here he is in the middle of nowhere, on a back road late at night, on the roof with it smashed down to the tops of the seats, needless to say the doors won't open and the back shelf is dripping lot's of av gas down into the headliner. He was a lucky guy that night a 4x4 happened by, he had a chain and he hooks it up to one of the door handles. The car is still on the pavement so there's justifiably some concern about sparks. The 4x4 driver is sort of tentative at first and the door isn't going anywhere although the metal roof is dragging down the road. I can just see the sparks. John tells the guy give it all you've got, he hangs on to the arm rest and the guy guns it, tearing the door completely off and away from the car and John along with it. By some miracle the wreck never catches fire. If he was a cat he used up one of his lives that night I would say. NOT even wearing his seat belt, he walked away with just bruises and minor cuts. He said the worst thing was the shifter beating him about the rib cage.

needless to say... don't try this at home.

So even though not sanctioned you could call street racing "wheel to wheel" and the competition can be fierce.

Drag Racers.

Agreed that going in a straight line might not be as exciting as having some turns but the participants aren't necessarily less because of it, just maybe more focused on narrower aspects of speed, the standing start and all out acceleration. If you've never felt top fuel dragsters shake the ground from the far side of the giant parking lot, or seen a fuel altered do an 1/8th mile burnout, then you've missed out. I haven't seen it but I can just imagine breaking the 5 second barrier, these guys are top notch racers, it IS wheel to wheel, and the competition is fierce.

My closest experience to drag racing was with an econo-rail. A friend of mine bought it as a fixer-upper, it was previously a sand rail and the frame had some cracks, which my friend had me weld for him. This thing was amazing. A chevy small block with aluminum heads cranking out about 500 HP, on a spindly frame, the whole car weighing less than 1000 pounds total. That tubing was small and thin. By the time he was done with the thing he only had about $3,500.00 in it. I went with him to the drags and first time out he ran about an 8.5 sec. quarter-mile. Amazing for 3,500, no wonder they call them "econo" rails. But I would have NEVER got in the driver seat, man. That thing was so long and steering so funky, it had bicycle wheels on the front, if it ever got out of shape at 150mph plus you'd have been done. Total guts or absolute craziness here for sure.

Time Trial and Auto Cross

Again I would lump these two categories together as they both represent racing against the clock. I don't have much to say about this aspect having never participated or been a spectator. I wouldn't discount their skill or competitiveness though, but would consider it a viable stepping stone to all out racing.

Wheel to Wheel

Of course wheel to wheel as in "road course" racing is the culmination of the sport. IF you have the time and the big bucks. Of course karting can almost be called affordable, but if your going to be competitive it's a full time occupation and it's a money pit no matter which way you look at it. You could probably break this category into 2 or more, especially with oval and stock cars but I won't speculate.

I raced go-karts on and off for 5 years starting with sprints and ending up with road-racing, enduros or "lay-downs" as their called. I have to admit this was some exciting times. Starting in sprints gets you really familiar with sliding sideways and dicy passing, skills you can take into other venues and really intimidate people with. I remember sliding sideways on a wet track during practice, getting it slideways and holding it that way down the entire straight-away, that small a wheel-base gives a very fine level of control. Sprint was fun but there were a lot of gomers and a lot of cheating and intentional crashing, which I guess can be found at any level. I raced a season in Texas sprints and ended up one point out of first place in my class, if I had even known there was a state championship I might have won. Frustrated with the short race times of sprint heats of a few minutes only, I graduated to road-racing. Lots of fun but more expensive and further driving distances to good tracks. I raced at Henderson, Hallett, Daytona, Willow Springs, and Laguna Seca. Same as sprints, some gomers and cheating but not as much bash-em-up. I was always proud of the fact that I was a one man operation, funding, building , wrenching, and driving. I also would appreciate beating someone that just threw money at the sport without working their way up from the bottom. You'd see these guys with the latest, best of everything that money would buy, but with little experience, and then you'd see them mowing the weeds.

But karting, in the IKF anyway, got to a point were it just wasn't worth it to me. They changed the rules for the Yamaha motor and turned it from a 15 hour bullet to a one hour bomb, it got more expensive and that's when I got out.

For a while I raced 10th scale battery RC cars, off road at a couple indoor tracks. This is a whole 'nother story that I won't bore you with but on the stand in the middle of a heat the adrenaline pump was surprisingly close to that of kart racing. To be competitive also takes a lot of time and more money than you would think. And surprise surprise they cheat and the smash-em-up aspect is RAMPANT!

And now the culmination of my racing... bicycles.. yes bicycles. Road racing in the entry level, in the US that's Category 4. Of all the racing I've done or seen this was far and away the best, and not just because I won the state championship (NM '86). Bike racing has everything and then some. For one thing money is a negligible factor compared to other racing, it's all talent and training. All the money in the world won't even get you in the pack.

It's hard to describe you would have to try it to know. Tactics are far more numerous and convoluted. You've got the wind, and wind directional echelons, team tactics, the break away, pack tactics, sand bagging, drafting(different wind direction changes everything), final sprint positioning and roll out, and the final sprint. In a good criterium if you had 10 different races you could have 10 different finishers out of the same 10 racers. Everyone usually has something they specialize in be it hills (short-long , gradual-steep) or endurance, time trial, or the final sprint. I was a sprinter, they never wanted to see me still with the pack near the end. In one season I rode 7,000 miles total (training and racing) and won more than half the races I participated in. The absolute greatest event was a century tour (100 miles) in Taos, not officially a race but very competitive anyway. It goes through steep winding river canyons across flat valleys and over two 9,000' passes. You can hit over 50 mph coming down from a steep pass on two, less than 1sq inch, tire contact patches. Throw in some hairpin turns and this can be either exhilarating or insane depending on your viewpoint. Sometimes racing criteriums with really tight turns on smooth asphalt, if you get your weight really low and inside, you can achieve a two wheel drift. Sadly it all ended with that one season as my previously injured knee (motorcycle) couldn't take the abuse.

My racing days are over, although I might get my 40 out on the track to see what it will do (if I EVER finish it), maybe even an occasional event if I can find one that's half way sane. I'm near SIR so we'll see.

And like hemingway sez " the only true sports are bullfighting, mountaineering and motor racing, the rest are merely games." It's off topic but I'm doing one of the others now and it ain't bull fighting.

Regards
 
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