I believe that the US did the banning and collecting of guns.
WTF?
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I believe that the US did the banning and collecting of guns.
That was the disarming of a country we had been at war with. As far as I know, the US is not at war with US citizens.
Disarming the enemy is normal. I'm afraid that talking to you is useless, it's not the deaths that bother you, it's control and firearms that you want. Next it will be speech and retirement accounts. Take care.
Ahh, but sometimes I wonder about your last sentence, especially in the last 4 years.
Of course, the societal differences between Japan and the US have absolutely nothing to do with the differences in gun violence:thumbsup:
I'm not a gun owner, but I see progressively more infringement of the federal govt into our daily lives whether through increased taxes, increased entitlement programs, or increased legislation/regulation. I would be hesitant to ever support much change in gun control laws, especially since the overall gun-related violence in the US has dropped precipitously in the last 20-30 years. The increase in mass-killings flies in the face of that and isn't really a gun issue. Pretty sure Tim McVeigh didn't use a gun.
The population of the US is nearly double that of the 70's, making the incidence per capita of handgun homicide less than half. Same is true with "other guns". Non homicide gun violence is also less than half.
Mass killings are way up though.
Very misleading there Jim.
By the way, it's Steve, not "Doc" if you please
Mass killings are way up though.
Very misleading there Jim.
By the way, it's Steve, not "Doc" if you please
Mr. Craik,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news to you (actually, I enjoy showing your errors)... First you used the "General Social Survey" as a source and the latest is Wikipedia, which we all know is updated by users and may not be accurate.
For those unfamiliar with "General Social Survey", it is a liberal organization that asks slanted surveys about OPINIONS from biased samples. In other words, it is an inaccurate, unreliable opinion, not a fact based survey.
You would get the same accuracy if you asked a bunch of 5 year olds if cotton candy was nutritious food.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news to you (actually, I enjoy showing your errors)... First you used the "General Social Survey" as a source and the latest is Wikipedia, which we all know is updated by users and may not be accurate.
For those unfamiliar with "General Social Survey", it is a liberal organization that asks slanted surveys about OPINIONS from biased samples. In other words, it is an inaccurate, unreliable opinion, not a fact based survey.
You would get the same accuracy if you asked a bunch of 5 year olds if cotton candy was nutritious food.
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Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Tell us again about your consevative surveys, you remember, the ones that said Romney would win in a landslide and that republicans would take the senate.
Fox called them: "Lies you tell as a republican to make yourself feel better"
As I recall, the liberal surveys were right on the money!
Fox called them: "Lies you tell as a republican to make yourself feel better"
As I recall, the liberal surveys were right on the money!
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Danimal,
Nice try, trying to deflect the facts with more miss information! The data for the chart I posted came from:
Summary
U.S. homicides by weapons, 1976-2004
Data source: Bureau of Justice Statistics
I suggest you click on the "Bureau of Justice Statistics" bar and see where the data really came from. There is much more information!
Nice try, trying to deflect the facts with more miss information! The data for the chart I posted came from:
Summary
U.S. homicides by weapons, 1976-2004
Data source: Bureau of Justice Statistics
I suggest you click on the "Bureau of Justice Statistics" bar and see where the data really came from. There is much more information!
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Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Danimal,
Yes, as usual, you are wrong!
The chart I posted came from Bureau of Justice Statistics, no where else.
Instead of just making stuff up, why dont you check first?
If you think the data is wrong, why dont you prove that the data is not correct, look into it, check, show us real numbers!
Yes, as usual, you are wrong!
The chart I posted came from Bureau of Justice Statistics, no where else.
Instead of just making stuff up, why dont you check first?
If you think the data is wrong, why dont you prove that the data is not correct, look into it, check, show us real numbers!
Sorry, Jim...using my phone, when I click on that chart it does take me to a wiki page. It does not take me to anywhere else, so I am not making anything up at all.
If the source for that chart on wiki came from the bureau of justice statistics, great...means you are at least trying to use a more credible source than the General Social Survey (or am I on too many cold meds and that wasn't you).
While you are on any of the credible sites, (FBI, DOJ, BoJS)... Why don't you see if there is any information as to who is committing those crimes, such as felons on parole, or people restricted by law from being able to be in possession of a firearm. Also, please find how many background checks prevented felons from buying firearms from dealers and how many of those felons were prosecuted for attempting to buy a firearm.
If the source for that chart on wiki came from the bureau of justice statistics, great...means you are at least trying to use a more credible source than the General Social Survey (or am I on too many cold meds and that wasn't you).
While you are on any of the credible sites, (FBI, DOJ, BoJS)... Why don't you see if there is any information as to who is committing those crimes, such as felons on parole, or people restricted by law from being able to be in possession of a firearm. Also, please find how many background checks prevented felons from buying firearms from dealers and how many of those felons were prosecuted for attempting to buy a firearm.
