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But then I wouldn't have known the difference because they would have been aborted. Come on Bob, your argument is juvenile.

Fuck-adoodle-doo.... all that money for a few thousand people to "express" themselves... I'd rather have a wank. I'td be more fun and a lot less stressful. I could even open a bottle of Barolo afterwards. But seriously - haven't we got even close to being past having to "connect"with our...

Precisely 36 seconds, as I'm pretty sure that it was siphoned from somewhere or other (no disrepect intended Al). However, we digress... Al, what was your point though? Poor people have a higher divorce rate? That still wasn't news when Hitler was around... The middle / upper classes (I hate...

Way to go Bob.... Nothing like muddying the waters by showing off the 0.1% who made it big... Come on, you can do better than that, surely.....:uneasy:

Here's another absolute classic:- The Who at Live8 playing "Who are You?" The Who - Who Are You (Live at Live 8) - YouTube

Just to show our age difference :) :- Radiohead - House of Cards Radiohead - House of Cards - YouTube Having said that, even though I am a white cracker, I have had a love affair with Blues and Jazz ever since I bought my first Muddy Waters album aged 12 :)

Innit Shminnit, ya know that ah meen? But seriously, we don't always have to like what's going on in our respective countries... It doesn't make you a racist to not like what is happening in your neighbourhood if you find that you are being marginalised by PC bollocks. It's hard to articulate...

Ron, I agree with you (oh, and happy birthday :) ). I hold firm to the concept of the separation of church and state where possible. Not because I choose to villify people of faith. Far from it. I respect anyone and everyone, whether they have a faith or not. I simply don't believe that our...

Jeff, in general the British populace couldn't give two shits as to whether the incumbent leader was religious or not (IMHO). As Keith has mentioned, Bliar did wear the badge when it suited him, as did Gordon (who sold all the gold?) Brown. But generally as I say, nobody gives two poohs...

Jeff, I find it quite alarming that the US will never again have a non-practicing christian President voted in. And I do agree with you vis-a-vis the trend towards the more extreme right within the GOP. This I find alarming too...

In the short time that I have known you, I believe you to be more correct than ever before. I would share your experiences of this issue, as would Nick, through a PM, or even through the fug of a pint in a pub one day... As to the LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT, I fear that you are spot on. My life is...

Very cool indeed. The TED lectures are great insights into science and engineering!

Not me Keith. Having said that, why would that deny me the right to discuss the concept of abortion :huh: I don't doubt that in most cases it is a harrowing experience, but not having gone through the process doesn't mean that I am unqualified to talk about (and possibly learn about) it.

Nice one Pete!!!

Nick, It's a really tough call, I agree. To have an arbitrary time (24 weeks), not 23.5 weeks, or 24.5 weeks makes for a very static target. I don't doubt that that figure was arrived at after a great deal of research, but it doesn't take into account how far a particular embryo has developed...

Bloody hell. I was in the CCF too. Longer ago than I care to think about now. I still remember doing a barrell roll in a chipmunk, with the instructor letting me do most of the work. 13 years old too....

Yes, it does Bob. But you still haven't answered Jeffs point...

:) What a FUCKING waste. Excuse my language, but it's so sad....

Rick, Agreed, spot on!

LonesomeBob, I am taking the time to very careful writing this post. I'm sure it has been has been said a million times before... If you are pro-life, then there is no choice. Period (or full stop if you are English). If you are Pro-Choice, then there you go, you have a CHOICE... your...