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Oh good god. Don't turn to the dark side Al. Don't follow the path of lonesomebob. Forever will it control your destiny...:laugh:

Well, honestly, it doesn't sit well to gloat about our nation being so great because we are "free" and welcome and treat every man as our "equal", then turn around and then make a statement like that. Which do you want, my friend? Edit - Sorry Al, it's late and I just noticed you had a link...

I present to you some relevant lyrics: Crosseyed and Painless by the Talking Heads. If you want to see an exceptional performance of this: Talking Heads - Live in Rome 1980 - 07 Crosseyed & Painless - YouTube Lost my shape-Trying to act casual! Can't stop-I might end up in the hospital I'm...

Bob, repectfully, you're arguing something else. Besides side tracking into the validity of other mandates, you're trying to argue that the cost savings is lost because of other increases. Well, imagine how much more you'd be spending if those savings weren't there. And I know the cost of a car...

An example of how these discussion get off topic. Please. I never made the case that Muslims did nothing wrong. I know the Crusades were in retaliation to regain their holy land. That wasn't point. *sigh*. Why do these discussions always seem so futile...

I don't understand your point. What they did do was ok and not at all relevant to the current topic? The Crusades lasted a couple of centuries and killed in the name of God. Women and children were killed. It was primarily fought against Muslims. If they didn't go to the same extremes as modern...

Now that's being a bit short sited. Should we go back to burning wood? It's called progression. Hoax is a strong word and in this case, I believe, a bit naive. Green technology has saved you some $$$ with lower mileage mandates and more efficient heating and cooling equipment, just to name a...

It's just as amusing to watch someone gloat over their own little personal triumph as they take down their strawman. It's so cute, Bob. Go on.:laugh:

Instructive post Al, but some take that train of thought and conclude that Islam is the enemy and should be vanquished. Let's continue this idea of shifting the timeline a few centuries and do the same for Christianity - back to the Crusades. Couldn't the same conclusions be drawing regarding...

Maybe because of things like this: Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law given loan bigger than Solyndra for solar plant | Mail Online What I don't get is the claim that her brother in law got some of the money. He runs one investment firm investing in this solar company, and the gov't is also...

You know, the one thing that really pisses me off more than anything else is the fact that I saw this coming over ten years ago, yet it's such a shock to so many people and the ones who's job it is to see it apparently didn't. Before I even bought my first house, simple common sense told me that...

Ahhh... if our governments could only be the same..... [slap - wake up].

That's a good point, but whereas the right supposedly lowers taxes and the left raises them, they both love to spend. Where will the money come from? Everyone here wants to see the spending go down, and hence taxes with it, but if an administration wants to spend (which they all do), they better...

Not at all. Some people want to see it that way though, which then precludes any rational discussion on the topic right at the beginning such as we keep seeing over an over again... *sigh* Are we ever going to be able to get past these issues in this country?

What did you do, sit too close to a light bulb? :drunk:

Yeah sure, he's drawing his conclusions with a crayon. Did you read that last part where he compares the total jobs created over Bush's ENTIRE 2 terms with Obama's first year and half? What a jackass. If he made a direct, more useful comparison, Bush would have looked criminal. Oh - then go...

*Ahem*, I believe most of those jobs were government jobs, as reported from many sources many months ago. And of course many went to illegal immigrants. Texas also has oil (which Perry had nothing to do with) which also drives down pump prices. Isn't Texas near the top of the list for poverty rate?

That's called a R-A-C-E C-A-R. It goes brum-brum and is reeeaaaalllly fast. :drunk: Joking aside, it makes me think of: dp vehicle home

Yes, I really need to get with the program...

Yes they have. It would behoove everyone if they would juxtapose the Al Gore updates with findings that don't agree with his stance. I have always said that "stating the facts", as so many people claim, is not the whole story. In the true effort to be honest, one must state all the facts.