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Yes, I tried assembling the entire thing with just the ZF - bell housing- spacer - engine and still the same. So every way I measure it there’s just not enough room to fit. Something has to give. Seeing the ERA manual talk about the -2 having a shaft being 1/4” too long makes me feel better...

The only problem with the diagram is I dont know if thats the standard length or the extra long length???

4.7” of course!!!

Found it. Right under that statement that Lee posted in the ERA manual about the rare -2 with longer input shafts they show a picture with how to measure the input shaft and show 4.7”. Well I measured mine. Anyone want to guess how long it is?????

Just took me 10 minutes to figure out how to open that ERA manual on stupid new IOS system!!!

I took off the bell housing, laid it flat on my welding table which is 1/4” flat steel plate and took numerous measurements around the interior (zf portion) circumfrunce depth to the table. All readings were between 3.93 and 395”. With cold weather and me doing that quickly I’ll call that 4”...

I’ve been thinking over Julian’s statement last night in my head. My ZF and 302 block are the exact same dimension as the ones they used roughly 60 years ago. The only puzzle piece that isn’t the same here is the bell housing and spacer plate. So why should I cut the input shaft on my ZF that...

Nothing is ever easy. I asked Bob if it was hardened steel. He said it took some time and was was harder than some steel but cut through just fine with the dremel. Still thinking which way is better. Since I already ordered the spacer I may try fitting it up and see how it fits. That way...

Good news is that Bob was gracious enough to quickly return my phone call this evening. Turns out he too had the exact same problem with his car. His input shaft was also the same length too long and he ended up cutting the end of the input shaft off to get the clearance needed. I guess I...

My plate is behind my flywheel which I don’t feel like pulling right now but I mic’s it at 0.060”. Putting the bell housing on the zf and measuring the stick out of the input shaft and subtracting for the thickness of the plates 0.060” I also got 7/8” (actually I got 0.878”) Which got me to...

I was thinking this that a spacer between the bell housing and the block would essentially ‘push’ the transaxle and bell housing back while adding the spacers. In theory the starter and flywheel would be in the same ‘space’ in relation to the block? Am I thinking this correctly?

Sorry typo on post 52. I got 4 3/16 as seen in post 47.

Also just thought it could be an imperfection or taper in the input shaft restricting the bushing at the bottom of the shaft. I’ll have to take it apart again and pull the bushing, check the bushing on the input shaft all the way for clearance, remove pilot bushing and reinstall just to rule...

Ok, well I started 2025 with the same problems as I left 2024 but what else is new. I’ve been digging around the forum and other sites trying to find answers to my problems. Also I’ve been unable to get in contact with Bob Wood, I’m not sure if my messages have been going through or if his...

That’s what mine is also. The plot thickens!!! Can you measure from where I did on the input shaft to see if you get 4 3/8”?

Ok, thanks. I’ll take it off tomorrow and measure it to check.

Also when I tried installing just the trans and bellhousing with the bushing in the block I could see when the input shaft started into the bushing and I went in at least what you show in your picture (guessing roughly) by how far the bellhousing was from the block still. It’s almost like the...

I assume I’m measuring from the same spot you are and I got 4 3/16”?

I’ve made mine future proof to be able to pull just the trans by replacing the top two bolts with just ‘bolt studs’.

Well i measure the length of the input shaft stick out to the depth of the crank center and got a .0975” difference with it being too long although there is a ‘hump’ inside the center of the hole in crank and there is a hole in the center of the input shaft so that should easily make up the...