GT40s.com
MK-I  MK-II  MK-III  MK-IV  GULF  MIRAGE  J-CAR  LOLA
GT40s.com
Home Forum Gallery Support GT40s.com  
Register FAQ Advertisers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   GT40s.com > Miscellaneous Forums > The Paddock


The Paddock Off Topic forum where anything goes!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-02-08, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
Freewheel
2 Tenths
Australia
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Deep in sand
Posts: 211
F1 2009

The return of slick tyres, the introduction of "passable" aerodynamics and the debut of KERS.

The absence of DC, who knows who'll be in Hondas and Renaults.

A new wearer of #1 and some new additions to the crowd of those trying to take it from him.

Might turn out to be worth watching....
Freewheel is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-08, 09:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
PDub's Avatar
PDub
7 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London, UK
GT40: Tornado
Posts: 713
Re: F1 2009

Not so much an absence of DC for those in the UK - on the grid maybe ;-)
__________________
Best regards,

P.

Black Tornado TS40 a.k.a. "Black Beauty"
SBF 306 / Edelbrock pack / R21-Turbo box / Quaife LSD
17" BRM Pindrives / Roll cage / Hi-Spec brakes
PDub is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-08, 10:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
Keith1's Avatar
Keith1
Bronze Supporter
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Forest UK
GT40: Nine
Posts: 2,931
Re: F1 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freewheel View Post
The return of slick tyres, the introduction of "passable" aerodynamics and the debut of KERS.

The absence of DC, who knows who'll be in Hondas and Renaults.

A new wearer of #1 and some new additions to the crowd of those trying to take it from him.

Might turn out to be worth watching....
Well done for the positive step of starting F1 2009 thread.

New additions trying to stuff Hamilton? Do you think they're going to increase the size of the grid then?
Keith1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-08, 08:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
RichardH's Avatar
RichardH
4 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Basyngstoches, Hampshire, UK
GT40: GTD+
Posts: 458
Re: F1 2009

maybe Ferrari can have a car twice as wide?
__________________
RS built GTD+

Engineering Manager, trying desperately to find out how these things work!
RichardH is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-08, 07:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
Freewheel
2 Tenths
Australia
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Deep in sand
Posts: 211
Re: F1 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith1 View Post
New additions trying to stuff Hamilton? Do you think they're going to increase the size of the grid then?

Keef,

No, but there will be at least 1 new driver to F1 (to bring it back to 20 after DC's move to a commentary box) and there's always the possibility that RB, JB, NP Jr or SB may lose their seats.


I'm fascinated to see how Williams make use of their KERS. I can see applications for the flywheel setup that may not necessarily be about boosting output power.....
Freewheel is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 01:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
David Morton's Avatar
David Morton
Lifetime Premier Supporter
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Marlow, England
GT40: The Jewel on th
Posts: 3,792
Re: F1 2009

Mark these words.
Expect Vettel to be there and taking the crown away from LH in 2009.

Another expectation : Enstone (Renault) will announce the drivers for 2009
in camera today and publicly tomorrow. Radical ? Doubtful but you never know.

50/50 even money on Barichello going to Indy or Champ next year. In the vacant Honda seat? Maybe another Brasiliero?

Last edited by David Morton; 11-04-08 at 03:24 AM. Reason: Just waking up......
David Morton is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 03:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
wealdenengineer
10 tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: East Sussex, UK
Posts: 1,371
Re: F1 2009

Interesting to note that Ferrari admit to being way behind on the KERS development, expect an annoucement from FIA that this part of next years requirements will be delayed in implementation ?
wealdenengineer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 04:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
kenshiro8's Avatar
kenshiro8
I Have No Life
Italy
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Milano,Italy
GT40: Fujimi 1/24
Posts: 2,717
Re: F1 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Morton View Post

50/50 even money on Barichello going to Indy or Champ next year. In the vacant Honda seat? Maybe another Brasiliero?
OMG..poor Rubens..I hope for him a better destiny than Montoya in the "soo easy" Nascar serie.
I still remember what Senna said about the american races...he always have been (rightly) too scared by US Ovals..as well as my hero Nigel Mansell had his problems there at the time..
__________________
Paolo:)

I Think Nordschleife is the nicest track in the world.

After LM classic '06 life devoted to gt40


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
kenshiro8 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 04:28 AM   #9 (permalink)
roaldin's Avatar
roaldin
6 Tenths
Australia
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Australia
GT40: RF
Posts: 684
Re: F1 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by wealdenengineer View Post
Interesting to note that Ferrari admit to being way behind on the KERS development, expect an annoucement from FIA that this part of next years requirements will be delayed in implementation ?
Cynic...

Tim.
roaldin is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 10:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
molleur's Avatar
molleur
Bronze Supporter
United States
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
GT40: SL-C LS1/930LSD
Posts: 1,935
Re: F1 2009

The KERS regenerative systems are not required as yet. BMW has indicated some serious problems in testing wherein a mechanic received an electric shock. Other problems also exist, so look for it to be a couple of years before any real KERS systems appear. So far, there seems to be little advantage other than "appearing green".
molleur is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 01:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
RichardH's Avatar
RichardH
4 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Basyngstoches, Hampshire, UK
GT40: GTD+
Posts: 458
Re: F1 2009

I know I am dumb - but what is KERS?


simpl wurds pleez
__________________
RS built GTD+

Engineering Manager, trying desperately to find out how these things work!
RichardH is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 01:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
Paul B's Avatar
Paul B
2 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Epsom,UK
GT40: GTD40
Posts: 259
Re: F1 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardH View Post
I know I am dumb - but what is KERS?


simpl wurds pleez
I'm not sure but suspect it is something like :
Kinetic Energy Recovery System..............but I'm sure I'll be corrected.
__________________
Paul Brameld,French Built GTD 40,Metalic Miami Blue
Paul B is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 02:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
aladinsane's Avatar
aladinsane
Lifetime Premier Supporter
United States
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal, USA
GT40: Tornado
Posts: 898
Re: F1 2009

KERS - something about taking energy created from braking and converting to propulsion
__________________
Tornado TS40, Dart Alum 351\427, 8 Stack EFI
G50\52 w\cooler, cable side shift, Halibrand KO, Hoosiers
aladinsane is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 03:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
molleur's Avatar
molleur
Bronze Supporter
United States
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
GT40: SL-C LS1/930LSD
Posts: 1,935
Re: F1 2009

You may have to cut & paste to your browser. Gives a rudimentary explaination of the KERS system.

autosport.com - F1 News: FIA sets out KERS plans for F1
molleur is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 03:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
wealdenengineer
10 tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: East Sussex, UK
Posts: 1,371
Re: F1 2009

KERS - Kinetic Energy Recovery System
wealdenengineer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 03:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
RichardH's Avatar
RichardH
4 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Basyngstoches, Hampshire, UK
GT40: GTD+
Posts: 458
Re: F1 2009

ta folks.
__________________
RS built GTD+

Engineering Manager, trying desperately to find out how these things work!
RichardH is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-08, 05:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
Freewheel
2 Tenths
Australia
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Deep in sand
Posts: 211
Re: F1 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Morton View Post
50/50 even money on Barichello going to Indy or Champ next year. In the vacant Honda seat? Maybe another Brasiliero?

The noises out of Honda in the last few days suggest to me that Rubens may get a farewell year while Senna & Wurz do development. Wurz of the car, Senna of himself. There is a distinct silence about Button.


The god-like status of the elder Senna in both Brazil & Japan makes young Bruno as valuable a prospect to Honda as any Japanese driver, but he clearly needs some polish. Mind you, the rate at which he's been polishing up over the last couple of years has been quite impressive.....
Freewheel is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-08, 11:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
Keith1's Avatar
Keith1
Bronze Supporter
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Forest UK
GT40: Nine
Posts: 2,931
Re: F1 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freewheel View Post
The noises out of Honda in the last few days suggest to me that Rubens may get a farewell year while Senna & Wurz do development. Wurz of the car, Senna of himself. There is a distinct silence about Button.


The god-like status of the elder Senna in both Brazil & Japan makes young Bruno as valuable a prospect to Honda as any Japanese driver, but he clearly needs some polish. Mind you, the rate at which he's been polishing up over the last couple of years has been quite impressive.....
It seems to me that the Brazilians bring more than a natural skill to the motor racing arena - they also bring a lot of family cash. This is vital for a youngster trying to get noticed as they can afford the best seats in the lower formulae. An interesting contrast to GB drivers which has undergone a sea change from almost exclusively "Gentlemen" racers to ordinary guys with no cash just bags of skill and enthusiasm from humble roots such as Council Houses (Project Housing for our US colleagues). Both Nigel Mansell and Lewis Hamilton come to mind and there may be others.

There is now and always has been a distinct lack of commercial support for any sport in the UK from UK companies and all British athletes and sportsmen (and women) usually have to fight tooth and nail to get sufficient funding to train etc. This is probably why we've never really got an answer in the Americas Cup although we have got plenty of sailing talent over here (as evidenced by recent Olympic successes). Nigel Mansell in fact, sold his house and lived with his family in a small trailer to fund his racing, such was his self belief.

This is not intended as jingoistic post but an illustration of the differences that money can bring. McLaren in fact have another "youngster" in the wings who punches way above his weight - Gary Paffet, another natural talent if ever I saw one, but regretfully he may not get his chance in F1 because he hasn't the financial clout.

However, cream does rise to the top! Remember De Cesaris? No amount of cash could get him further up the grid but he was fun to watch!
Keith1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-08, 05:19 PM   #19 (permalink)
David Morton's Avatar
David Morton
Lifetime Premier Supporter
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Marlow, England
GT40: The Jewel on th
Posts: 3,792
Re: F1 2009

FA and NP remain at Renault,
JB stays at Honda but who takes RB's seat?
David Morton is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-08, 06:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
SL70/34's Avatar
SL70/34
Rookie
United States
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: United States
Posts: 87
Re: F1 2009

It could be Senna.
SL70/34 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Interest wanted For July 2009 Santa Pod Day IanAnderson GT40 Enthusiasts Club 29 07-13-09 03:14 PM
Manx Classic 2009 VCC56 GTD 40 Car Club Forum 11 02-08-09 03:56 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:17 AM.