Walmart workers have the jobs they have the ability to perform, if they are more qualified they have better jobs that pay more. What you want is to give workers without job experience or job qualification pay of more qualified workers. In my first job I started at a wage as a groundman for the electric company, I applied for a apprentice lineman opening that was posted the first day, I met the requirements and got a raise from $1.11 to $1.21. I got raises every 6 months as I went through the apprenticeship and had to qualified for each raise. I couldn't skip steps no matter how hard I applied myself because it was IBEW, the most useless organization there is. If you give unqualified workers the same money as qualified workers, what impetus is there to excel? You have to start someplace and all those "under paid" people are at the bottom of the ladder.
Over 92 million Americans out of work force
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You think there is no problem.........
In 1979 to 2007, the bottom 40% of US have reveived none of the fruits of their labor, yet they are called lazy freeloaders because the pay no taxes
For every $1 they were making in 1979 in 2007 they were making less than $1.25!
For every $1 the top 1% was making in 1979 in 2007 they were making $281.
A few ultrarich billionaires can skew that graph in a major way. But hey, skewing is one of your best skills...
You think there is no problem.........
In 1979 to 2007, the bottom 40% of US have reveived none of the fruits of their labor, yet they are called lazy freeloaders because the pay no taxes
For every $1 they were making in 1979 in 2007 they were making less than $1.25!
For every $1 the top 1% was making in 1979 in 2007 they were making $281.
Obviously the 1% are the job creators without whom the bottom 40% would have no jobs. Every liberal I know wants to take from someone else money to cure the ills of society. "Socialism is fine until you run out of other peoples money" Margaret Thatcher
It's easy to have high ideals when you have your hand in someone else's pocket!
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Yes and millions of "untra poor" get "skewed!
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
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I have high ideals and I pay big taxes, I bet we payed as much in taxes last year than you made in income!
Al you got alot of nerve to talk "IDEALS," tell us again about how you stuck your hand in the peoples pocket and took money that you admitted you did not need!
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There are precious few "ultra-poor" in the US. We have the wealthiest fattest poor people on the planet for sure. But you wouldn't know that in your wealthy state with jobs galore and where the rivers flow money.:thumbsup:
Here's where the US will go with Jim's plan:
I'm in that 1%, albeit at the very low end. In 2012 I paid around 47% of my income in state, federal tax, FICA tax, Medicare tax and property tax. In 2013 that jumped to between 58% and 60% (Increase in federal and state taxes, elimination of personal and family deductions, Medicare "surtax" which is ironic since I won't get medicare when I retire etc etc etc). That's a tipping point for me. I averaged 70-100 hours a week at work before this year. I made a conscious decision to back down as of Jan 1. I eliminated and entire clinic and cut my practice by about 20%. My income will drop more than that. I'm OK with it. I work really hard those first 60-70 hours but the last 10-20 really kick my ass. That's what costs me time for my family, time for enjoyment, time for me. I did it because that's what you do in my line of work. Well, to give 60% of it away just isn't worth it.
As of Jan. 1 we had to lay of 3 people as a direct result of me cutting back my practice. That's what higher taxes do, disincentivize the job-producers. I've also put off buying a GT40 too (fueling the economy less because I have less).
On the other hand, I'm having a ball spending time with my 7yo daughter and will never regret the time I spend with her!
I'm in that 1%, albeit at the very low end. In 2012 I paid around 47% of my income in state, federal tax, FICA tax, Medicare tax and property tax. In 2013 that jumped to between 58% and 60% (Increase in federal and state taxes, elimination of personal and family deductions, Medicare "surtax" which is ironic since I won't get medicare when I retire etc etc etc). That's a tipping point for me. I averaged 70-100 hours a week at work before this year. I made a conscious decision to back down as of Jan 1. I eliminated and entire clinic and cut my practice by about 20%. My income will drop more than that. I'm OK with it. I work really hard those first 60-70 hours but the last 10-20 really kick my ass. That's what costs me time for my family, time for enjoyment, time for me. I did it because that's what you do in my line of work. Well, to give 60% of it away just isn't worth it.
As of Jan. 1 we had to lay of 3 people as a direct result of me cutting back my practice. That's what higher taxes do, disincentivize the job-producers. I've also put off buying a GT40 too (fueling the economy less because I have less).
On the other hand, I'm having a ball spending time with my 7yo daughter and will never regret the time I spend with her!
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Steve,
That's what it takes, lots of very hard work. We own and run two businesses, work very long hours, pay taxes and feel lucky.
We live in a wonderful part of a wonderful country, sure we pay taxes but there is a lot left over.
I have way more than I wanted and little less than I dreamed!
Our taxes provide incredable value, from dog catcher to National defence......
Our taxes make successful business possible. They provide a safe, reasonably level playing field with laws, rules, standards, protection and recourse.
And yes they provide a safety net for those less fortunate.
We get All this and still have lots left........thats value!
I have and will vote for tax increases.
Say Steve, would 1.2 million Walmart employees making enough to pay their Doctor help?
That's what it takes, lots of very hard work. We own and run two businesses, work very long hours, pay taxes and feel lucky.
We live in a wonderful part of a wonderful country, sure we pay taxes but there is a lot left over.
I have way more than I wanted and little less than I dreamed!
Our taxes provide incredable value, from dog catcher to National defence......
Our taxes make successful business possible. They provide a safe, reasonably level playing field with laws, rules, standards, protection and recourse.
And yes they provide a safety net for those less fortunate.
We get All this and still have lots left........thats value!
I have and will vote for tax increases.
Say Steve, would 1.2 million Walmart employees making enough to pay their Doctor help?
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Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Doug, my comments were directed at Jim not you, however I am happy to publicly apologise for upsetting you, I can ensure you that was not intended.
Whoopee, but you still want to stick your hand in other peoples pockets.
You're a stand-up guy, Pete! Good on ya!! :thumbsup:
That's why we all love ya 'round here!!!
Cheers!
Doug
You're assuming all 1.2 million get paid squats? Every employer has employees that get paid less than others.
Why do they have to pay their Doctor? Obamacare!
Jim I must be missing something here. If a company owner with ten employees clears $10,000 a week and he only pays them $100 each but draws the $9000 for himself how and where is there going to be an increase in tax collected ? If anything the company owner will be on the higher tax rate and the revenue services are better off. Within Walmart there will be employee`s paying ridiculous amounts of tax at these higher rates.
Bob
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Jim: Since I backed down my practice, none of those Walmart employees will get in to see me. Since I laid off 3 people in the process there are fewer people buying at Walmart so there are now only 1.199 million employees working there. See how your cherished ineptocracy works?
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
I do love the internet!
Imagine my suprise when I opened Flipboard to check the "Market News". It appears that my views are in the majority.
This poll came out today.........
CNBC survey shows millionaires want higher taxes to fix inequality
CNBC Millionaire Survey: Inequality 'major problem'
Tuesday, 6 May 2014 | 6:51 AM ET
CNBC's Robert Frank rolls out the results from the first CNBC Millionaire Survey, where respondents sound off on achieving the American dream.
In the heated debate over inequality, the wealthy are usually portrayed as the cause rather than the solution.
But CNBC's first-ever Millionaire Survey reveals that 51 percent of American millionaires believe inequality is a "major problem" for the U.S., and nearly two-thirds support higher taxes on the wealthy and a higher minimum wage as ways to narrow the wealth gap.
The findings show that—far from being a purely self-interested voting bloc—American millionaires have complicated views when it comes to the wealth gap and opportunity in America. They are unashamed of their own wealth and attribute their success to hard work, smart investing and savings. They also believe that anyone in America can get wealthy if they work hard.
The CNBC Millionaire Survey polled 514 people with investable assets of $1 million or more, which represents the top 8 percent of American households. The respondents came from around the country and were split between Democrats, Republicans and Independents.
The online survey was conducted in March by Spectrem Group on behalf of CNBC. The overall margin of error was 4.3 percentage points.
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Just as I said, these wealthy Americans also think that higher taxes and a higher mimimum wage are the best way to go!
Imagine my suprise when I opened Flipboard to check the "Market News". It appears that my views are in the majority.
This poll came out today.........
CNBC survey shows millionaires want higher taxes to fix inequality
CNBC Millionaire Survey: Inequality 'major problem'
Tuesday, 6 May 2014 | 6:51 AM ET
CNBC's Robert Frank rolls out the results from the first CNBC Millionaire Survey, where respondents sound off on achieving the American dream.
In the heated debate over inequality, the wealthy are usually portrayed as the cause rather than the solution.
But CNBC's first-ever Millionaire Survey reveals that 51 percent of American millionaires believe inequality is a "major problem" for the U.S., and nearly two-thirds support higher taxes on the wealthy and a higher minimum wage as ways to narrow the wealth gap.
The findings show that—far from being a purely self-interested voting bloc—American millionaires have complicated views when it comes to the wealth gap and opportunity in America. They are unashamed of their own wealth and attribute their success to hard work, smart investing and savings. They also believe that anyone in America can get wealthy if they work hard.
The CNBC Millionaire Survey polled 514 people with investable assets of $1 million or more, which represents the top 8 percent of American households. The respondents came from around the country and were split between Democrats, Republicans and Independents.
The online survey was conducted in March by Spectrem Group on behalf of CNBC. The overall margin of error was 4.3 percentage points.
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Just as I said, these wealthy Americans also think that higher taxes and a higher mimimum wage are the best way to go!
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