Escort Services for Unaccompanied Alien Children

[Jeff Young]

No.

He's equating Alinsky's ideas -- which while radical and not something I agree with is ultimately aimed at increasing the power and participation of the lower and middle classes in society -- with Hitler's Mein Kampf, which was a racist, dictatorial take on how to reform a countyr and ultimately led to WWII and the Holocaust.

Low ass shit, like I said.

I don't have to call Bob a racist, a bigot or a hater. His words speak for themselves. Is he being raicst here? I don't know, but he does fall into the category of hypocrite for claiming in all other cases the free market without government intervention is the way to go, but here refusing to recognize the free market is directing labor flows into the US and calling for government regulation to stop it.

My guess though if these were white folks from the UK or other places coming to the US he'd have no problem with it. Make of that what you will.

 

[Bob Fechter]

No, Jeffs not calling me a racist, he may hint at it, but how else do you win a conversation if you're a liberal?

By saying that the government planned these tens of thousands of children to come over here, CHILDREN, months ahead of time and act surprised about it, that is racist?

Alinsky is advocating the destruction of our system of government by overloading it into a collapse which, of course, will be "remedied" by all pervasive government to fix it. What a better way than importing innocent children, warehousing them in miserable conditions, and then calling its citizens racist for being outraged over their actions.

Then, Jeff goes to the pretzel logic of saying I want government regulation to stop it????? Where did I say that?

I want our government to enforce the laws that are already on the books.

 

[Bob Fechter]

As far as "Mein Kampf," I was merely saying no one paid attention to it at the time and the consequences were horrible. The same has happened with "Rules For Radicals." Ignore it at your own peril, it is the blueprint that our current regime is following far too closely.

 

[Larry L.]

He's equating Alinsky's ideas -- with Hitler's Mein Kampf...

I don't have to call Bob a racist, a bigot or a hater. His words speak for themselves. Is he being raicst here? I don't know...

Oh, I see...you evidently know he's equating Hitler & Alinsky ('cause you flat out stated he was)...but, you don't know if he's being a racist. Why not? Mind reading should be mind reading. Isn't it therefore possible that you really don't "know" what the actual case is in either situation...'that you're just stating your 'opinion'?

...refusing to recognize the free market is directing labor flows into the US and calling for government regulation to stop it.

The "free market" isn't directing "labor flows" (illegal alien flow this case) into the U.S.! Obama's "Dream Act", his executive orders tying the hands of ICE, et al, and his refusal to put the National Guard on the border are. That and the fact that 'the word is out' all over Central and South America that if one can get his kids across the border they won't be sent back...which will clear the way for mom & dad and the whole extended family down the road. And the above, sir, IS the direct result of screwed up govt dictates/laws/involvement - NOT the actions of the "free market".

My guess though if these were white folks from the UK or other places coming to the US he'd have no problem with it. Make of that what you will.

My guess is you're again assuming facts not in evidence, counsellor.

Make of that what you will.

I just did.

 

[Scott Calabro]

No, they do not.

Your kidding, right?

I mean, no one who came here illegally would try and dupe the system, they just want part of the American dream, right Jeff?

If they are here illegally, they need to be sent home, ONE by ONE.

I'd rather have expensive tomatoes, Jeff.

 

[Bob Fechter]

You forgot to call him a racist, a bigot, and a hater.




So is making that charge when it doesn't apply.

Bob obviously can reply for himself, but it's pretty clear to me that he was simply saying both books spelled out 'zackly' what was going on their radial authors' heads and that things might have turned out differently had 'the powers that be' paid attention to both of 'em...back then as well as right now.

"Zackly." Thank you Larry.

Let us also note who is calling whom names, using foul language, and epitaphs.

I also, since its open season for reading other's minds, think that all the pressure on the staff here to curtail or eliminate political debate is coming from the liberals on this site.

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

No, they do not. If their children are born here though, they and their children can qualify for some aid.

What brings illegal immigrants to the US? The free market. Who are the people most opposed to having more brown folks join us in the US? People who scream about the free market all day long as being the answer to everytihng.

The irony.

Well illegals here who claim to be refugees, get temporary visas and that qualifies them to also get aid. No wonder we are having problems.

 

[Jeff Young]

Your kidding, right?

I mean, no one who came here illegally would try and dupe the system, they just want part of the American dream, right Jeff?

If they are here illegally, they need to be sent home, ONE by ONE.

I'd rather have expensive tomatoes, Jeff.

Spoken like someone who hasn't come within 100 yards of a Hispanic immigrant.

Yes, anecdotally, almost all of the Hispanics I know who are here illegally came here to make money. most of the time to make it send it back, and then go home.

But there is better evidence, proof really, of this. Even if you eliminated all of our social welfare programs, you would STILL have an immigration "problem." Why? Because of that all mighty free market you worship, except when it brings people to our country you don't like.

And yes, if you are an illegal immigrant you do not qualify for most of our social service programs and, trust me on this, it's nearly impossible to beat the system on this because it requires a birth certificate or social security card.

 

[Jeff Young]

"Zackly." Thank you Larry.

Let us also note who is calling whom names, using foul language, and epitaphs.

I also, since its open season for reading other's minds, think that all the pressure on the staff here to curtail or eliminate political debate is coming from the liberals on this site.

I'm not "curtailing or eliminating debate," I'm just explain how you are wrong. Almost all the time. And apparently don't like Hispanic immigrants.

You started the shit flinging with the Hitler and Mein Kampf nonsense so don't go crying to dad when you get called on it.

 

[Bob Fechter]

I'm not "curtailing or eliminating debate," I'm just explain how you are wrong. Almost all the time. And apparently don't like Hispanic immigrants.

You started the shit flinging with the Hitler and Mein Kampf nonsense so don't go crying to dad when you get called on it.

I'm not referring to you on the censorship issue, but others quickly come to mind, notably by their absence.

I'm not crying to "dad," whomever that may be, and there was no shit flung from my perspective. I used the above scenario as a way to illustrate how bald faced, openly stated agendas get ignored because, "He really doesn't mean that, he's only trying to appeal to some group or demography"

 

[Jack]

Oldie, but here we go again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jY

 

[Doug S.]

My opinions are all over the place on this one...I don't feel that it is right to saddle the border states with the cost of controlling the border. The Federal Government should take the responsibility for border security...absolutely NONE of the POTUS in recent memory have done a good job about that, B.O. included.

I do feel that the unaccompanied children should be returned safely to their place of origin...however, what happens to them if their parents are no longer alive (perhaps murdered by the drug cartels?)...would it not be better to allow them to stay with family if there is any in the U.S.? I have never been in favor of undocumented immigrants, either adult or children, but what will become of the orphans if they have no-one to whom to return when they get off that plane?

The Federal Government should go after any financial holdings that Mexico has in the U.S. to pay for the cost of the invasion from the south. Mexico has no responsibility to ensure that their border with the U.S. will be secure...but what about their responsibility to the hordes of central Americans who are flooding across Mexico? It is not right to return unaccompanied children to Mexico if they originated further south...any more than it is right to expect Mexico to protect our border, that's our responsibility...and, yes, I believe that a military presence would help, although I'm not sure I believe yet in shoot first and ask questions later...but if the POTUS is not going to pay for enough border security to ensure that there isn't a problem of this magnitude, then it should station enough combat-ready troops along our border to ensure that we are no longer invaded from the south and that the rightful residents along the border can return to their own homes without fear for their lives.

Hard to offer cheers, here...there are no winners.

Doug

 

[Scott Calabro]

Spoken like someone who hasn't come within 100 yards of a Hispanic immigrant.

Yes, anecdotally, almost all of the Hispanics I know who are here illegally came here to make money. most of the time to make it send it back, and then go home.

But there is better evidence, proof really, of this. Even if you eliminated all of our social welfare programs, you would STILL have an immigration "problem." Why? Because of that all mighty free market you worship, except when it brings people to our country you don't like.

And yes, if you are an illegal immigrant you do not qualify for most of our social service programs and, trust me on this, it's nearly impossible to beat the system on this because it requires a birth certificate or social security card.

Wrong again Jeffy. I don't hate anyone. I have lots of friends who are "Brown". How dare you accuse me of being racist. What I don't like are criminals. Trust your opinion on whether or not illegals do not abuse the SS system with fake cards and fraud? OK sure! It's sooooooo hard to fake those two documents....what was I thinking?