Girdle, cad file?

[Daniel Lorenz]

Looking to save some money on the stud girdle for my SBF302 block.
Tried finding a file myself, but to no luck. Does anyone here sit on a file to be able to cut out my own girdle in 1/2" mild steel?

 

[Ryan L]

I don't have one at this point.
Sorry

 

[Neil]

Looking to save some money on the stud girdle for my SBF302 block.
Tried finding a file myself, but to no luck. Does anyone here sit on a file to be able to cut out my own girdle in 1/2" mild steel?

With 302 Ford stud girdles running in the $75 price range, is it cost effective to make your own?

 

[Ryan L]

They generally need grinding/milling to clear the top of the main caps. They are not just a flat plate.

 

[Neil]

They generally need grinding/milling to clear the top of the main caps. They are not just a flat plate.

Are we talking about head stud girdles or a main cap crank girdle?

 

[Brian Kissel]

SBF302 block.

 

[Jean-Marc]

Sorry for this stupid question, I am french and it is the first time that I read this words "stud girdle" what is it ? A photo ?

 

[Daniel Lorenz]

They generally need grinding/milling to clear the top of the main caps. They are not just a flat plate.

Yeah, aware of that. But that would be an easy task in the workshop after it would have been cut out
And the 70$ girdles seems to be like 1/4" steel plate only, the thicker ones always come as kits and i want to buy ARP154-5408 and would therefore want just the girdle, but still a 1/2" thick plate that doesn't cost 300$ like the canton's does...

 

[Paul Hendrickx]

Sorry for this stupid question, I am french and it is the first time that I read this words "stud girdle" what is it ? A photo ?

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[Ryan L]

Sorry for this stupid question, I am french and it is the first time that I read this words "stud girdle" what is it ? A photo ?

from around 6:30 it shows the installed in the bottom of the block.

 

[Jean-Marc]

Thank you for the clarification !

 

[Brian Kissel]

Back in the late 80’s and early 90’s, I made these for the Big Block Chevy’s. At much over 1500 horse, at a minimum the caps were walking or they were blowing the main caps off the block. My girdle tied all of the main caps together as a unit. I also had special oil pans that worked with the girdle as well as a cast timing cover with a large bearing to support the crankshaft to help prevent the end of the crank breaking off. I made these for the Rodeck block as well. The technology has been around for years.
Regards Brian

 

[Neil]

Yeah, aware of that. But that would be an easy task in the workshop after it would have been cut out
And the 70$ girdles seems to be like 1/4" steel plate only, the thicker ones always come as kits and i want to buy ARP154-5408 and would therefore want just the girdle, but still a 1/2" thick plate that doesn't cost 300$ like the canton's does...

That $70 figure was for a head stud girdle from Summit.

 

[Ryan L]

Back in the late 80’s and early 90’s, I made these for the Big Block Chevy’s. ..................................
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Does anyone make something like that for the Windsor?
Not sure it would be necessary for my application, just a question out of curiosity.

 

[Douglas]

Does anyone make something like that for the Windsor?
Not sure it would be necessary for my application, just a question out of curiosity.

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[Brian Kissel]

Ryan, not to my knowledge. The ones that are being shown in this thread just covers the main caps with a 1/2” plate. My unit was over 2” thick and all the main caps along with the sides were one piece. ARP made me custom sets of studs for it as well. I also on the side web milled it so it acted like a crank wiper to help peel the oil off the rotating mass. Real crank wipers are meticulously machined to close clearances around the rods and crank. This was the best I could do and maintain the one piece option as everyone’s assembly was different. The bottom was o ringed and mated to the timing cover as well. The oil pan was shortened in height to accommodate the height of the girdle.

Regards Brian