Need cooling help please
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I see, thanks.
At this point I am wondering if there are engine mounts that don't intrude as much into the oil pan area.
Also, is it possible to raise the engine enough to swap out the mounts without fully removing the engine?
Also, is it possible to raise the engine enough to swap out the mounts without fully removing the engine?
Thanks Michael...I have reached out via email, but a call might be in order. I will post results. They originally finished my car...
From Olthoff just now:
"Loosen the vertical bolts going into the block. About 3/8"
Loosen the 2 long bolts through the mount. Leave them in.
Lift the motor 1/2" and the mounts will rotate enough for the pan to fit through.
You can use a jack with a 2x4 on the crankshaft damper to lift
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Dennis."
"Loosen the vertical bolts going into the block. About 3/8"
Loosen the 2 long bolts through the mount. Leave them in.
Lift the motor 1/2" and the mounts will rotate enough for the pan to fit through.
You can use a jack with a 2x4 on the crankshaft damper to lift
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Dennis."
At this point, what is left attached to prevent you from just pulling the motor and trans together and allowing you to do this right. I would lift it out and redo the pan gasket with full access.
As far as I can tell, most of the items are disconnected. The AC compressor is a bit in the way...it is tight in that corner.
Other than that, I just lack the the equipment and help to pull it (and the rear shell) and the space to store the rear shell and to work on the motor. I I have the car on a 4 post lift right now in a small tight garage and can access it all fine if I can get the motor mounts out of the way and drop the pan.
Other than that, I just lack the the equipment and help to pull it (and the rear shell) and the space to store the rear shell and to work on the motor. I I have the car on a 4 post lift right now in a small tight garage and can access it all fine if I can get the motor mounts out of the way and drop the pan.
Some success today while following D. Olthoff's directions. The oil pan is off.
Does anyone know what brand this oil pan is? This is a Roush crate 427R from 2006 vintage. Now some cleaning and prep for reassembly...and another trip away for a few weeks.
Does anyone know what brand this oil pan is? This is a Roush crate 427R from 2006 vintage. Now some cleaning and prep for reassembly...and another trip away for a few weeks.
David Garton
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Get the pan gasket from Ford. 2003 E-150 with 5.0 liter. It will be one piece rubber with metal eyelets in all the bolt holes and don't forget to put the re-enforcement rails back up with the pan. 3M weatherstrip adhesive on block surface and the gasket will stay in place . This was the hardest procedure for you but you are in better shape when done.
Interesting idea on the stud kit Michael. The FelPro gasket I bought has some plastic studs included. I can think of a few places, like under the motor mounts, where studs might be a better solution that the bolts.
David, I am not sure if I am reading you correctly. I was under the impression that it was best to tack the half moon sections of the new gasket to the pan first...are you suggesting that a few dabs of 3M on the block surface will help prevent the gasket moving when the pan is first brought together with the block? Or are you saying to tack the gasket to the block and the half moons to their upper mating surfaces and then bring the pan up?
David, I am not sure if I am reading you correctly. I was under the impression that it was best to tack the half moon sections of the new gasket to the pan first...are you suggesting that a few dabs of 3M on the block surface will help prevent the gasket moving when the pan is first brought together with the block? Or are you saying to tack the gasket to the block and the half moons to their upper mating surfaces and then bring the pan up?
Thanks Dave!
David Garton
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Mike , First let's make sure you are using the newer style one piece rubber pan gasket. In the beginning we were advising with the pan left on and it being an old style cork gasket with half moon ends you would trim the cork gaskets for the timing cover only and glue in the half moon. Once you took it apart and mentioned the eyelet rings we determined you had a newer style one piece rubber gasket. Yes 3m the half moons in place and tach the rail part of the gaskets in place. Hope this make sense.
This is the one piece Fel-Pro gasket I have:
FEL-PRO OS 30214 T Oil Pan Gasket Set https://a.co/d/29VAEHL
FEL-PRO OS 30214 T Oil Pan Gasket Set https://a.co/d/29VAEHL
Now test fitting the gasket to the oil pan, all holes line up, but one thing has me scratching my head. The oil pan has a pronounced rib in the half moons, but the gasket is flat across that area...this reduces the contact surface on the bottom sides of the half moon....hmmm.
Does Roush publish a maintenance parts list for their crate motors? I haven't found one yet.
Does Roush publish a maintenance parts list for their crate motors? I haven't found one yet.
Canton shows the following gasket set for their pan: 4 piece job. I would ask them.
www.cantonracingproducts.com
88-600 Gasket Oil Pan For Ford 302
SBF 289-302 Four Piece Oil Pan Gasket with Fibrous Compound Rails For All 289-302 Oil Pans Except: 11-600, 13-600 11-644, 15-620, 15-620S, 15-640, 15-644, 15-644S. NOTE: Our Ford One Piece & Four Piece Oil Pan Gaskets are NOT Interchangeable. The Ford Oil Pan Stamping That Is Used With A Four...
www.cantonracingproducts.com
That one piece gasket is a really good one. Just be sure to put the timing cover on first. Those plastic inserts for the pan make it so you do not need the RTV or weatherstrip adhesive to hold the gasket in place (save them in your tool box for another job they work well). The inserts will hold the gasket in place while you set the pan. I would still RTV or weatherstrip the 90 degree corners. Done!
Great job. You will be glad you did it right the first time.
Great job. You will be glad you did it right the first time.
By 90 degree corners. I mean at the transition to the half moon bends.
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