I want you all to takea look at this chart. For those of you who have trouble reading charts since 1980 all the up is Republican and all the down is Democratic.
Click chart for briefing on Federal Debt.
In 1980 Reagan was President, during his term, the Republicans controlled 2/3 of the Govenment, the Presdident and the Senate. Al always says this was not Reagans fault, Bullshit, he cut taxes and spent like crazy.
Now move ahead to 2000, now we have BushII, he forces through a tax cut and starts two wars, the blue line goes through the roof.
You consevatives say that Obamas jobs bill is crazy because it has not worked, well tell us how trax cuts have helped the economy?
Take another look at that chart, once we got another Moronic republican out of power, the blue line has leveled off. Much of that has come from the stimulus and we need more.
Instead of taking from the poor and giving to the rich, I say we put people to work fixing America.
Two big tax cuts by Republicans and two massive increases in debt.
Posted by the hypocrit.
Reagan had 2/3 of the govenment, but you say it was not his fault. Thats just more hypocritical crap!
Do you have a problem with posts without personal attacks? You've beat this like a dead horse, ok, when I stopped work after 40+ years I collected unemployment for the first and last time in my life, if this make me a hypocrite, then I guess I'm a hypocrite. How's that buffalo boy?
I want you all to takea look at this chart. For those of you who have trouble reading charts since 1980 all the up is Republican and all the down is Democratic.
Click chart for briefing on Federal Debt.
In 1980 Reagan was President, during his term, the Republicans controlled 2/3 of the Govenment, the Presdident and the Senate. Al always says this was not Reagans fault, Bullshit, he cut taxes and spent like crazy.
Now move ahead to 2000, now we have BushII, he forces through a tax cut and starts two wars, the blue line goes through the roof.
You consevatives say that Obamas jobs bill is crazy because it has not worked, well tell us how trax cuts have helped the economy?
Take another look at that chart, once we got another Moronic republican out of power, the blue line has leveled off. Much of that has come from the stimulus and we need more.
Instead of taking from the poor and giving to the rich, I say we put people to work fixing America.
Two big tax cuts by Republicans and two massive increases in debt.
Posted by the hypocrit.
Reagan had 2/3 of the govenment, but you say it was not his fault. Thats just more hypocritical crap!
Jim, your chart shows that sure Bush 2 pushed up the total deficit by a bit, but as we have noted many times before, the democratic controlled congress from 2007 - 2011 ran up the biggest debt in the reasonable past.
Let me ask all you Consevatives:
Truthfully, if that chart was reversed, by that I mean that if all the upward movement in the debt was done by Democrats and all the downward movement was done by Republicans, would you be saying that its no big deal?
Domtini, would you then call the almost virtical rise under BushII, just "a bit" of a rise?
Al He inherited the wars said:Al, yes he inherited wars, you forgot to mention that he inherited a ruined economy! Most all the spending was needed to save the economy from 8 years of Bush!!!
You must not remember that Bush forced through huge tax cuts, that was entirely his inititive, this is all his!!!!!
Those tax cuts did not do away with Bush!!!
You must not remember he started two wars, one certinally un-needed Bush and Cheaney lied to congress and lied to the American people, tricking them into supporting wars that Americans are still dying from!!!!!
Those wars did not go away with Bush!!!
Using your twisted logic, even though Reagan had 2/3 of the govenment, yet somehow you think that he is not resonsable for the huge rise in the deficet.............Just more of your Hypocrasy!!!!!!!!
Let me ask all you Consevatives:
Truthfully, if that chart was reversed, by that I mean that if all the upward movement in the debt was done by Democrats and all the downward movement was done by Republicans, would you be saying that its no big deal?
Domtini, would you then call the almost virtical rise under BushII, just "a bit" of a rise?
Al, yes he inherited wars, you forgot to mention that he inherited a ruined economy! Most all the spending was needed to save the economy from 8 years of Bush!!!
You must not remember that Bush forced through huge tax cuts, that was entirely his inititive, this is all his!!!!!
Those tax cuts did not do away with Bush!!!
You must not remember he started two wars, one certinally un-needed Bush and Cheaney lied to congress and lied to the American people, tricking them into supporting wars that Americans are still dying from!!!!!
Those wars did not go away with Bush!!!
Using your twisted logic, even though Reagan had 2/3 of the govenment, yet somehow you think that he is not resonsable for the huge rise in the deficet.............Just more of your Hypocrasy!!!!!!!!
Ian,
Yes, I'm sure there is a lag time in both directions, as the economy improves some effect from the previous aministration do carry over. I'm sure that Clintons balancing of the budget, even paying down the debt he inherated from Reagan was helped by the BushI tax increase as well as the Dot.com boom.
Just as the poor economy, high unemployment and wars that Obama inherited from BushII have carried over well into the next administration.
But Ian,
To my eye, when I look at that debt chart, almost to the day that Reagan forced through the tax cuts (saying that this windfall for the rich would trickel down to everyone), the debt went straight up and the economy tanked.
Now I know that BushII inherated the Dot.com bust, not of his making, but then, almost to the day that he forced through tax cuts (even before 9-11 or the gulf wars) the blue line goes straight up.
I do not know how much more evidence is needed to to show that tax cuts do not help the economy.
You say "ZERO results".Obama in 2009-2010 ran up $3.5 trillion and has zero results
Domtoni,
You say "ZERO results".
I want you to look one more time at the chart, has the blue line stopped going up?
Has the blue line mabye even started down?
Has the unemployment rate gone down ever so slightly?
You think that is zero? Really?
If that is your idea of "zero results", what do you call the results from the last three Republican administrations?
So Reagan and BushII ran up a debt of 8.5 Trillion $ and you support/defend them??????
And you forgot to add in the $1,483 Trillion run up by BushI
Yes Domtoni we keep going over the same stuff because you and a few other continue to try and blame the huge deficit on President Obama, when all the evidence shows that the majority of the debt belongs to Reagan and the Bushs'.
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Rather than continually trying to blame one side, why don't we all agree that the fault is shared and the problem is shared and the solution needs to be shared!