This is interesting!
- Thread starter Al Wohlstrom
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This is the quest of this thread. Take the mosque stuff to the mosque thread.
Grade Obama's First Year in Office - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Grade Obama's First Year in Office - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
posted by Jim [QUOTEApparently a majority of Republicans did not agree with you, they agreed with me!
Additionally the American people agree with me as well, per Gallup, his approval rating went up during and after the Republican inquistion. His second term, approval rating was 61%.
][/QUOTE]
This is the kind of simple minded justification for his viewpoints. Take a random poll and post it out of context to try and prove his superior point of view. He is sounding more and more like Moveon.org or even some of the pundits on conservative talk radio. Is this another Al Franken or another Rush Limbaugh type. Who knows where he is comming from. If you guys will stop replying to his political rants and call him on his less than objective postings of selected material, maybe he will get the message.
It's back to cars for me.
Garry
Additionally the American people agree with me as well, per Gallup, his approval rating went up during and after the Republican inquistion. His second term, approval rating was 61%.
][/QUOTE]
This is the kind of simple minded justification for his viewpoints. Take a random poll and post it out of context to try and prove his superior point of view. He is sounding more and more like Moveon.org or even some of the pundits on conservative talk radio. Is this another Al Franken or another Rush Limbaugh type. Who knows where he is comming from. If you guys will stop replying to his political rants and call him on his less than objective postings of selected material, maybe he will get the message.
It's back to cars for me.
Garry
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Part of a post posted by Al,
Garry, these are not "random polls", these are Gallup poles at the end of his term. I poseted the poll numbers in reation to Al's post, 61% approval rating is very very good, obviously most of America did not agree with Al.
QUOTE]"Bush's approval rating, which stands at 28 percent [/QUOTE]
As you can see Clintons approval rating was somewhat higher than Bush2's.
The Americal people have spoken.
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From Rasmussen:
Obama Approval Index History - Rasmussen Reports™
From Gallup:
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
Where does 61% approval come from, someone's dreams?
Obama Approval Index History - Rasmussen Reports™
From Gallup:
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
Where does 61% approval come from, someone's dreams?
Jim, Jim, The poll is about BO, Obama, Barrack Obama, Barrack Hussein Obama, NOT Bill Clinton, Carter, Harvey Wallbanger or anyone else, Obama, got it?
Grade Obama's First Year in Office - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Grade Obama's First Year in Office - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
My mistake here. I thought we were talking about BHO not Bill Clinton.
Its always an issue of how one sees Clinton's extra stuff in the Oval Office. Like most good Europeans, I think that was pretty much between two consenting adults, and didn't involve the process. My fear here is the Republicans were afraid of Clinton's popularity, and hence had to expose him to get back into power. This was a sad act. But those are my thoughts. But we don't need to back to Clinton and stay on BHO.
Its always an issue of how one sees Clinton's extra stuff in the Oval Office. Like most good Europeans, I think that was pretty much between two consenting adults, and didn't involve the process. My fear here is the Republicans were afraid of Clinton's popularity, and hence had to expose him to get back into power. This was a sad act. But those are my thoughts. But we don't need to back to Clinton and stay on BHO.
Jim, stop whining, you brought up the Clinton impeachment, I responded.
Grade Obama's First Year in Office - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Grade Obama's First Year in Office - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Been away for a little over a week. I would like to just jump in and add something that I feel needs to be said.
One thing I've learned about political discussions is that in the end, nobody "wins." There is enough political dung to bring up about all of them. I think all the so called "great" presidents were the ones in the very beginning when things were all bright and rosy and there was a collective, genuine excitement about what we were striving for in this new nation. Of course there was bitter political rivalry then, but now it seems that is all the drive there is... which political party can make it to the #1 spot. Neither party has that same drive to make America #1 now because America has been at the top of the heap for so long. I'm not saying there should be no drive to KEEP America there, but that is the attitude we see coming from ALL presidents it seems.
As for Jim - the backlash against him for supporting his side is appalling. Anyone on his side is greatly outnumbered here, so if he needs to STFU than you ALL need to STFU. So... people on the right get to say all the collective things they want to say, but Jim tries to keep up with useful facts but he's talking too much. *Sigh* Then I read some people saying they "believe" something to be the way it is but then feel they don't need to support it. *Sigh* Whatever... good luck Jim...
I guess I'm really not completely on anyone's side here. If there is ever an election where neither of the Repubs or Demos has a complete dimwit running (and if Palin runs in 2012 it will only continue the cycle), then finally I will be able to vote for a different party; otherwise it's the same old thing - vote just for the sake of keeping the worst out of office.
One thing I've learned about political discussions is that in the end, nobody "wins." There is enough political dung to bring up about all of them. I think all the so called "great" presidents were the ones in the very beginning when things were all bright and rosy and there was a collective, genuine excitement about what we were striving for in this new nation. Of course there was bitter political rivalry then, but now it seems that is all the drive there is... which political party can make it to the #1 spot. Neither party has that same drive to make America #1 now because America has been at the top of the heap for so long. I'm not saying there should be no drive to KEEP America there, but that is the attitude we see coming from ALL presidents it seems.
As for Jim - the backlash against him for supporting his side is appalling. Anyone on his side is greatly outnumbered here, so if he needs to STFU than you ALL need to STFU. So... people on the right get to say all the collective things they want to say, but Jim tries to keep up with useful facts but he's talking too much. *Sigh* Then I read some people saying they "believe" something to be the way it is but then feel they don't need to support it. *Sigh* Whatever... good luck Jim...
I guess I'm really not completely on anyone's side here. If there is ever an election where neither of the Repubs or Demos has a complete dimwit running (and if Palin runs in 2012 it will only continue the cycle), then finally I will be able to vote for a different party; otherwise it's the same old thing - vote just for the sake of keeping the worst out of office.
Chris,
I have been lucky enough to have been away on holiday for a couple of weeks and did get to watch 10 mins of a Fox news channel as that is all I could stand.
Sorry, but if it was the same Fox channel that is mentioned on this thread then in my opinion calling it a news channel would give grounds for prosecution under the trades description act.
It seemed to be some guy putting forward his views on a subject while blatantly self publicising himself and his show, news did not come into it.
Sorry for the arrogance, maybe I caught them during a bad 10 minutes and have been spoilt by the BBC.
I have been lucky enough to have been away on holiday for a couple of weeks and did get to watch 10 mins of a Fox news channel as that is all I could stand.
Sorry, but if it was the same Fox channel that is mentioned on this thread then in my opinion calling it a news channel would give grounds for prosecution under the trades description act.
It seemed to be some guy putting forward his views on a subject while blatantly self publicising himself and his show, news did not come into it.
Sorry for the arrogance, maybe I caught them during a bad 10 minutes and have been spoilt by the BBC.
I think you are spot on with that. The left has its extremists. The right cries fowl complaining about the "leftist" media. So, what would be the right thing to do? Offer a truly neutral news outlet. What does Fox do? The exact same thing that they are complaining about coming from the left. That's no solution - it's just fueling the fire. Maybe they believe 2 wrongs make a right? The problem as I see it is that Fox went farther to the right than any mainstream "left" station ever was to the left. Fox is NOT a news source by any means.
One interesting thing - most of the Obama bashers will also bash Bush2 now. But they weren't bashing him when he was in office. Did it take you that long to figure it out or do you pick and choose when it is appropriate?
Charlie Farley
Supporter
When i have a blocked up nose, i don't pick at the left one first, then secondly the right. I hold a tissue up and let rip with both.
That way, i can see what sh!t came out of both.
I guess that holds no intellectual licence, but it seems to work for me.
I think ' channel hopping ' between news media channels is a similair
experience.
That way, i can see what sh!t came out of both.
I guess that holds no intellectual licence, but it seems to work for me.
I think ' channel hopping ' between news media channels is a similair
experience.
Pat Buckley
GT40s Supporter
Chris -
At least you admit that you're basing your opinion of Fox News on just 10 minutes of watching it.
It has been my experience that I need to see more of something before deciding I hate it.
At least you admit that you're basing your opinion of Fox News on just 10 minutes of watching it.
It has been my experience that I need to see more of something before deciding I hate it.
Pat.
I think this was aimed at me, and you are correct normally it would take more than 10 mins. I was looking for world news, it only took me 10 minutes to realise I was not going to get it on the channel I was watching so switched to the BBC and got exactly what I as looking for with a couple of minutes.
As I said maybe I was unlucky but it was labelled Fox news and it was not broadcasting news.
