Not understanding the delivery process, looking for help.

Joel K

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Not sure if you have seen the SLC Wiki. It documents many of the upgrades included with the SLC since inception. It clearly shows when changes were made, better solutions were offered over prior versions.

My car is a 2018/2019 and since then new uprights with stronger bearings, better formed roll hoop, and improved steering rack are now all included with the base kit.

Here is the link…
 
This is no different than any part you buy for any car. They are all made somewhere by somebody. Assurances come from the certifications the manufacturers have obtained. Remember, the big OEMs vend out lots of stuff for new cars and the used car market is way deeper in remanufactured and replacement parts. I am not sure Captain Ron analogy works here. If you are talking about building a RACE car, do the homework and check and double check every part multiple times and assume something will still break and have spares. I assume you are not planning to go 150 on a public road.
 

Randy V

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Idle minds can sometimes dream up terrible things.

Coleman & guys, Like you, I‘ve trusted Fran to produce a quality product or I would not have purchased it.
There is no way I would believe that Fran would jeopardize his company or any of his customers well-being by implementing something slip-shod.
Be patient and trust that he’s doing the best with the hands he’s being dealt..
 
First off, Captain Ron is in my top 5 favorite movies of all time, Kurt Russel is my spirit animal!

To answer your question I’ll tell you a story.
While I was driving Pro Formula Mazda we had an issue with the rod ends for the a-arms both front and back corners. It was the start of the season and we had swapped out all the rod ends over the off season, along with everything else that had a sub one year life span. We did not know it at the time but there was a manufacturing flaw with the parts and it made them weaker than they were spect. Unfortunately we did not heed the warning signs of the issue (they were loosening up during practice more then they should) and during a hot lap (putting together a timed lap to judge how we are doing) the back right lower rod end attaching the a-arm to the upright let go. This was at Road Atlanta, my home track, on the exit of turn five just after “the Esses” (we called it Death Valley lol), turn five is a very fast left turn with high loading and to get your best time you run the curb on exit. Because this is where the short course re enters the main course, the safe barrier is not very friendly. Suffice to say, the car was very badly damaged when the back end went and I hit that barrier at about a 45* angle backwards.

My point is this, there are no guarantees in this life. I trust the designer and build of a race car to do their job, but it’s on me and my team to listen to the car and make our judgment calls based on all the evidence. If we would have stopped and thought about why the rod ends were loosening up, we may have caught the problem before the accident.

You should never just Willy nilly go run a race car at 150mph without doing the work to get up to that point. Never start with your hot lap.

At any rate, here’s to swimmin with bow legged women! (Sorry, I also love the move jaws lol)
I love this whole post man lol

This part:
If we would have stopped and thought about why the rod ends were loosening up, we may have caught the problem before the accident.
leaves me wondering, if you had gone with your gut, did you have a backup? Im thinking no, because if you had, those parts probably would have been put on the car anyway. With no recourse in parts, your options were forfeit or "lets see what happens"...right?
 
Idle minds can sometimes dream up terrible things.

Coleman & guys, Like you, I‘ve trusted Fran to produce a quality product or I would not have purchased it.
There is no way I would believe that Fran would jeopardize his company or any of his customers well-being by implementing something slip-shod.
Be patient and trust that he’s doing the best with the hands he’s being dealt..
Roger that. In hindsight, it doesnt really help anything that I brought it up. Like the others said, this isnt a car with a giant recall department where theres a warranty and youre expected not to void the warranty. It seems like every build winds up being unique even if the order was completely stock; mods just wind up happening during the assembly process and we accept that burden going in.
 
Not sure if you have seen the SLC Wiki. It documents many of the upgrades included with the SLC since inception. It clearly shows when changes were made, better solutions were offered over prior versions.

My car is a 2018/2019 and since then new uprights with stronger bearings, better formed roll hoop, and improved steering rack are now all included with the base kit.

Here is the link…
Thank you Joel.
 

Ian

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I love this whole post man lol

This part:

leaves me wondering, if you had gone with your gut, did you have a backup? Im thinking no, because if you had, those parts probably would have been put on the car anyway. With no recourse in parts, your options were forfeit or "lets see what happens"...right?
Hey thanks man!

"Lets see what happens" in motorsports is a scary proposition! Not to say I haven't done it in my earlier years...

So we had many extras and it was a three car team so lots of resources. The trouble is that you just don't start seeing these things when you are in the heat of the moment. A proper team will have a team boss who is talking to everyone, getting feedback throughout the day and pushing decisions. Unfortunately we were not that well organized and it was not until after the postmortem on the crash that we put together that the part was requiring more than normal attention. Mind you when I say it was loosening up, i don't actually mean it was coming in loose and flopping about, I mean that it would come in slightly clocked (rotated out of the position it was intended to be in) and a crew member would straighten it and snug it up. The sub par metal was stretching on the shaft of the rod end and after a while it failed under the load of the turn. Once we realized the issue we stripped all the cars and replaced them with known backups that still had some life in them. I was still able to run as well the next day, but it was a very very long night getting my car back together and the other two stripped of the faulty parts.

One of the defining moments in experiencing motorsports is when you realize that any part can fail at any time, and when you and your bag of bolts are traveling at triple digit speeds, you gain an eminence amount of respect for the obsessive process of prepping a car.

Always good to ask questions, especially before the crash and not after! haha
 
I see, its such a classic tale. I struggle with it all the time in everything I do, and Im sure some of the guys here would agree:

You have a task or a goal in mind that requires considerations, they could be all manner of things that you have to collect and prioritize. Some have to be solved/addressed well in advance, some CANT be solved in advance but need to be solved at the time with little to no notice. So you go through them in repetition, making sure as you complete the task and progress toward your goal that you are checking all of these considerations, and theres always a couple small things that you either honestly mistake as being a non-issue, or like in my bad habits, considerations that you see as vaguely being a problem but you sort of wishfully think they wont be "this time".

And every time something happens to me, its one of those things. I considered it, I didnt completely overlook it, but--I was taking 25 other considerations more seriously than THAT one, and THAT is the one that bites me in the ass lol
 
>You have a task or a goal in mind that requires considerations, they could be all manner of things that you have to collect and prioritize. Some have to be solved/addressed well in advance, some CANT be solved in advance but need to be solved at the time with little to no notice. So you go through them in repetition, making sure as you complete the task and progress toward your goal that you are checking all of these considerations, and theres always a couple small things that you either honestly mistake as being a non-issue, or like in my bad habits, considerations that you see as vaguely being a problem but you sort of wishfully think they wont be "this time".

Dude just summed up life.
 
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