Update…called about my ASVE title with TXDPS today. Guess it was rejected and they never called or emailed me! Turns out it was flagged (sounded like possibly by their “automated system in Austin” for a VIN that was less than 17 digits. Guess they never did anything with it automatically after that until I called today. Supposedly it will be “reviewed” in the next week and told me to call them (of course on their dial a death, wait 20 mins on hold line) next week to see if it passed their review and should have mailed it by then. Guess we will see.
P2334 Registered in TX
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Listen pleasantly to what they have to say and ask them to please send their reasons to you in writing.
/s/ Chris
/s/ Chris
Howard Jones
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Everybody should be aware that the long number/letter sequence on the RCR MSO is not a VIN number!!!!!! A VIN number CAN ONLY BE ISSUED BY A MOTOR VEHICLE MANUFACTURE!!!! That would be Ford, GM, Toyota, BMW, etc. Never a kit car manufacturer.
Kit cars or home-built replicas are never issued VINs. Kit car manufacturers are not motor vehicle manufacturers. Only complete cars sold by motor vehicle manufacturers are covered under the international agreement that gives them the authorization to assign VINs. Kit cars get an assigned registration number during the registration process in each state under the local state law governing them. This number is the substitute identification number used instead of a VIN for these types of cars. It is reported to the national database just like a VIN.
If you submit the MSO number/letter sequence to the DMV assuming it is the VIN it will screw them up and it will get rejected. You can use it as the manufacturer's vehicle (kit) serial number but not a VIN.
Kit cars or home-built replicas are never issued VINs. Kit car manufacturers are not motor vehicle manufacturers. Only complete cars sold by motor vehicle manufacturers are covered under the international agreement that gives them the authorization to assign VINs. Kit cars get an assigned registration number during the registration process in each state under the local state law governing them. This number is the substitute identification number used instead of a VIN for these types of cars. It is reported to the national database just like a VIN.
If you submit the MSO number/letter sequence to the DMV assuming it is the VIN it will screw them up and it will get rejected. You can use it as the manufacturer's vehicle (kit) serial number but not a VIN.
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Agree Howard, I just wish that all the folks in the titling office and process of getting an assembled vehicle would understand this as well. There was a time when VINs were not a standard 17 digits also and only with the automation of computers does having a VIN less than 17 digits does it cause an issue. As the manufacturer of my own vehicle I can assign it any serial number or ID number I want on a chassis tag or in this case FFR already did as well as issue an MCO. The legal part of it is to have the state and its assignment of a state title (and thus registration) recognize the official manufacturers ID# as a VIN or at the prerogative of the state it has to assign it another VIN it will recognize. Sadly, in this case Texas, failed to do either in a timely fashion but DID indeed recognize & assign my chassis ID number as the VIN on the registration paperwork I legally need for on road use. Now it is up to them to finish the legal process of issuing a title reflecting such.
My next assembled vehicle challenge will be to register a fully scratch/ self built chassis & vehicle (GT40). As the manufacturer (even checked the Texas code Sec 503.001), I WILL assign it my own serial ID number (with tags & markings of appropriate type) and will leave it up to the state to recognize it or assign and attach its own VIN if it deems necessary.
My next assembled vehicle challenge will be to register a fully scratch/ self built chassis & vehicle (GT40). As the manufacturer (even checked the Texas code Sec 503.001), I WILL assign it my own serial ID number (with tags & markings of appropriate type) and will leave it up to the state to recognize it or assign and attach its own VIN if it deems necessary.