Uk general election may 6th

Keith

Moderator
I apologise for this post in advance to everyone because I don't like posting political stuff as a general rule but our present Govt & in particular that loathsome smirking liar Gordon (Kiss My Arse) Brown has got me so incensed that I felt I needed to express myself for once.

Dealing with purely the financial incompetance to start with: His mantra that he has a "safe pair of hands" is ludicrous given his history. This is just some of it.:

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We used to have 6 independent regulators to regulate the different divisions of the financial services industry, including our Banks.

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(Margaret Thatcher knew what the Banks were like and in the 1988 Finance Act she bound the Banks up in regulation to prevent them from being reckless!!!)

Then Brown became Chancellor on 6th May 1997

Brown's banker friends said "We want all these regulators to go"
"We don't want regulators watching everything we do"

AND BROWN SAID ‘OK’

So, Brown announced on the 20th May 1997 (2 weeks after becoming Chancellor) that the six regulatory bodies would be broken up and a new Financial Services Authority would replace them. The FSA had virtually no powers over the Banks and he also took away the powers from the Bank of England to enforce regulation on them.
The result is the devastation we are all suffering today.

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We used to have a Monopolies and Mergers CommissionThen Brown's banker friends said we don't want the Monopolies and Mergers commission telling us who we can and can’t "Take Over"

AND BROWN SAID ‘OK’So, in 1998 Brown scrapped the Monopolies and Mergers Commission and created a replacement called the Competition Commission, with very much reduced powers and different ideas of what used to be regarded as a "Monopoly".

The result is the Massive Corporations we have today who are ruling and shaping our lives for their own benefit and profits. Not to mention the massive Monopolies held by some of these corporations through the forced purchases of all their competitors

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We used to have pension regulations, which for many decades had included something called "The Pensions Cap"
The pensions cap set a limit on how much pension any scheme member (including directors) could get from an occupational pension scheme,
irrespective of how high their earnings were.

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It was there to protect the ordinary members pensions. To prevent Directors paying themselves obscene salaries and then draining the pension funds with huge pensions.

Then Brown Brown's banker friends said that they wanted the pensions cap removing so that they could get pensions related to their obscene earnings.

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(The whole Pensions industry gave him warnings of the effects it would have. Even the Inland revenue put forward objections)

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Because Brown never likes to disappoint his banker friends

So Brown took away the Pensions Cap in 2005 and then some of his Friends were able to leave their boardroom positions with huge pensions!!!

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For example Fred Goodwin was apparently entitled to a pension of over £700,000

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If Brown had left the pensions cap in place that would have been a mere £125,000.So well done Fred and all your Fat Cat mates.

(The Superannuation's Division of the Inland Revenue have kept a record of what it should be, in readiness for when we get a new chancellor who sees fit to re-instate it. George Osborn has pledged to do that). The record of Pensions Cap limits are available to view on the Revenue's website
The result of this is that along with Brown's "Tax Raid" on pension funds starting July 1997, over four thousand UK company pension scheme's have closed their doors to new members and many of them have had to close down altogether, leaving millions of workers without any pension provision.


This man Brown professes to be a “socialist” and "for" the working man

The working man's main form of long term financial security had for many years been his company pension scheme, something to look forward to at the end of a life of hard work, his reward, light at the end of a long dark tunnel.

Brown has put an end to that by destroying the most valuable <o:p></o:p>
asset of the average British worker.

IT IS ONE OF THE GREATEST TRAVESTIES OF JUSTICE THAT THIS MAN WHO PRETENDS TO BE "FOR THE WORKING MAN" HAS IN FACT BEEN HIS WORST ENEMY FOR THE LAST THIRTEEN YEARS AND WILL LEAVE A LEGACY THAT WE WILL STILL BE CLEARING UP FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

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THE REAL INJUSTICE IS THAT ITS ALL BEEN DONE IN AREAS WHICH ARE TOTALLY OUT OF SIGHT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND BEYOND THE UNDERSTANDING OF MANY

BROWN RELIES ENTIRELY ON PEOPLES IGNORANCE TO GET AWAY WITH
HIS INDISCRETIONS

BROWN'S MOTTO OF:

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"DENY EVERYTHING AND ADMIT NOTHING" has kept him in power thus far, but the writing is on the wall.

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FINALLY - WHAT BROWN LIKES TO CALL THE "GLOBAL BANKING CRISIS"

Have you noticed that we were the first to be in it and are the last to be out (and whether we are out is very speculative!!!)

As he has openly admitted, The Royal Bank of Scotland was the world’s biggest bank.

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So when RBS and HBOS were about to go BUST in October 2008 and they had to be bailed out overnight so they did not take the entire country down with them, (that by the way was almost certainly a decision made by the hierarchy in Whitehall for which Brown loves to take the credit)

As the world’s leading banks now all lend money to each other on a colossal scale, isn't it obvious that the world’s biggest bank going down would have a devastating effect on all the others it dealt with.
This "world’s biggest bank" had also sold bad mortgage books to other banks.

Most of the Banks in Europe which ran into crisis were dragged into it because of the crooked dealings of our big Banks. A fact that both Germany and France were quick to remind Brown of at the G20 emergency meeting shortly after the crisis.

There are many other of Brown's indiscretions, far too many to list here, but perhaps the main ones shown above will give some insight into how Brown operates.

By the way have you noticed how he has suddenly become interested in Social issues now an election is looming and seems to be able to promise the world when, as Alistair Darling put it a few days ago, there is not a penny left in the bank!!!


Think very carefully before casting your vote for this man who is probably the most extreme capitalist of the past century while masquerading as a champion "for the working man".

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Please help consign this gang to the dumpster of history on May 6th

Apologies for the rant - but these people are unspeakable.. :veryangry:
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
Kieth - 10/10.
You should have been standing as a candidate on the 6th. I would have come up with the deposit for you. You certainly would have retained it as well.
I just had a reply from one of the ex cabinet ministers - Philip Woolas. History will judge him and his fellow cronies but he doesn't see it that way and is accusing me of rejoicing in his and quite a few of the other swindling cheats demise.
Believe me, I will dance on their graves.............
 

Keith

Moderator
Kieth - 10/10.
You should have been standing as a candidate on the 6th. I would have come up with the deposit for you. You certainly would have retained it as well.
I just had a reply from one of the ex cabinet ministers - Philip Woolas. History will judge him and his fellow cronies but he doesn't see it that way and is accusing me of rejoicing in his and quite a few of the other swindling cheats demise.
Believe me, I will dance on their graves.............

Would there be room on the grave for an electric scooter Dave?

By the way, tell Phillip Woolarse that there are millions of us rejoicing at his and all his cronies' demise, the scoundrels...
 
Nice one Keith,

I will certainly not be disenfranchising myself on Thursday, but from a straw poll of people I know and down the pub, there will be a lot of people who aren't going to bother to vote, which is frankly staggering.

Gordon Brown is a total cunt who should be strung up by his balls and left as a reminder of what short term economics can do to a country. He is absolutely as you describe, the least socialist person I have ever seen in a Labour government (apart from Phony Bliar that is)...

I have watched all of the TV debates (although I don't believe in them particularly, but that's a different story). His mendacity is incredible...

I can't apologise for the language, that's how strongly I feel about the unelected twat.

Graham.

P.S. going off topic slightly, but how hilarious was it too see Alex Fishface Salmon saying he was going to obtain an injunction to stop the debates because he wasn't allowed to join in the fun...

The sooner we get parity between the Westminster parliament and the others the better. Every single one of my friends who is a Scot is frankly embarrased by the SNP...
 
Very important information has just been made public that I think is something you should all be aware of:


Gonorrhea Lectim.


The Centre for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of this old disease. The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim.
It's pronounced "Gonna re-elect 'im." The disease is contracted through dangerous and high-risk behaviour involving putting your cranium up your rectum. Many victims contracted it in 1997 .... but now, many people, after having been infected for the past 13 years, are starting to realise how destructive this sickness is.
It's sad because it is so easily cured with a new procedure just coming on the market called Vot-emout! You take the first dose/step on May 6th 2010 , and simply don't engage in such behaviour again, otherwise it could become permanent and eventually wipe out all life as we know it.
Please pass this important message on to all those people who need this antidote.
 
Very important information has just been made public that I think is something you should all be aware of:


Gonorrhea Lectim.


The Centre for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of this old disease. The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim.
It's pronounced "Gonna re-elect 'im." The disease is contracted through dangerous and high-risk behaviour involving putting your cranium up your rectum. Many victims contracted it in 1997 .... but now, many people, after having been infected for the past 13 years, are starting to realise how destructive this sickness is.
It's sad because it is so easily cured with a new procedure just coming on the market called Vot-emout! You take the first dose/step on May 6th 2010 , and simply don't engage in such behaviour again, otherwise it could become permanent and eventually wipe out all life as we know it.
Please pass this important message on to all those people who need this antidote.


hehe... Like it Simon...

:)
 

Keith

Moderator
Keith, what about all our Gold reserves he gave away for peanuts ? Frank

Yes Frank what about the Gold :furious: Thought he was being very clever. He should have been fired then. Like I said though, his indiscretions, political naivety, ignorance, run to many pages and much bandwidth.

Bliar was the smart one - he knew what was going to happen hence the step aside. I'm only grateful he never got to be president of Europe but he hasn't given up yet.

Remember also, Brown got all the kudos for Clark's shrewd financial strategy that he inherited - as long as he stuck by that he was fine. It was when he acquired an indestructible sheen that things started to go awry which serves to remind us never to believe our own publicity.

I'll be totally honest, I have lived under quite a few labour Govts and some a lot better than this one, and the various levels of 'socialism' we have experienced seem to have always exhibited a degree of self interest and poor money management. It's as if they don't get the wider picture and are intent on micro goverance.

My favourite ever gaff from a Labour Front Bencher.

When, just over 50 years ago, the first moves towards economic integration came in Europe — the coal and steel community — Britain’s position was clear and unambiguous. Civil servants, having received Europe’s proposal, tracked down Herbert Morrison, the deputy prime minister (and Peter Mandelson’s grandfather) who was dining at the Ivy.

(To all our American friends: The Ivy in London, is one of the best restaurants in Britain - 2 months waiting for a table - a socialists Nirvana)

Morrison had no hesitation. “The Durham miners won’t wear it,” he said, thereby ensuring that Britain stayed out, not only of the coal and steel community but also the European Economic Community which began a few years later. (For our American friends, the British Miners were at the heart of Labour political strategy for many years and were used as a blunt weapon to batter Labour opponents with - that is until Thatcher confronted them)

At a stroke he thus ditched THE opportunity to be at the heart (and thus more in control) of Europe and because we didn't want them, De Gaulle didn't want us when the penny dropped some years later.

Such political incompetance has been at the heart of most labour Govts since Atlee's seminal healthcare revolution.

There is nothing at all wrong with socialism. All governments have to (or should) exhibit the will to care for their populations health and wealth in a fair manner. That is the mandate they are handed by the people, not to fuck them over and treat them like morons.


Today, ironically, my hat is off to a Labour politician who has at least honestly voiced his opinion regarding Mr Brown.

Manish Sood, who is standing in North West Norfolk, added that Mr Brown was a "disgrace".

Mr Sood called Labour ministers "corrupt" and said the party had allowed immigration to get too high.

Labour said Mr Sood's remarks were "dreadful" and the latest in a series of "bizarre comments" he has made.

Now THAT is the kind of man I could vote for as not only is he a former immigrant himself but he has spoken the absolute truth regarding the whole gang of them. Honesty is a rare commodity in politics these days... a bit like British Gold.
 
Yes Frank what about the Gold :furious: Thought he was being very clever. He should have been fired then. Like I said though, his indiscretions, political naivety, ignorance, run to many pages and much bandwidth.

Bliar was the smart one - he knew what was going to happen hence the step aside. I'm only grateful he never got to be president of Europe but he hasn't given up yet.

Remember also, Brown got all the kudos for Clark's shrewd financial strategy that he inherited - as long as he stuck by that he was fine. It was when he acquired an indestructible sheen that things started to go awry which serves to remind us never to believe our own publicity.

I'll be totally honest, I have lived under quite a few labour Govts and some a lot better than this one, and the various levels of 'socialism' we have experienced seem to have always exhibited a degree of self interest and poor money management. It's as if they don't get the wider picture and are intent on micro goverance.

My favourite ever gaff from a Labour Front Bencher.

When, just over 50 years ago, the first moves towards economic integration came in Europe — the coal and steel community — Britain’s position was clear and unambiguous. Civil servants, having received Europe’s proposal, tracked down Herbert Morrison, the deputy prime minister (and Peter Mandelson’s grandfather) who was dining at the Ivy.

(To all our American friends: The Ivy in London, is one of the best restaurants in Britain - 2 months waiting for a table - a socialists Nirvana)

Morrison had no hesitation. “The Durham miners won’t wear it,” he said, thereby ensuring that Britain stayed out, not only of the coal and steel community but also the European Economic Community which began a few years later. (For our American friends, the British Miners were at the heart of Labour political strategy for many years and were used as a blunt weapon to batter Labour opponents with - that is until Thatcher confronted them)

At a stroke he thus ditched THE opportunity to be at the heart (and thus more in control) of Europe and because we didn't want them, De Gaulle didn't want us when the penny dropped some years later.

Such political incompetance has been at the heart of most labour Govts since Atlee's seminal healthcare revolution.

There is nothing at all wrong with socialism. All governments have to (or should) exhibit the will to care for their populations health and wealth in a fair manner. That is the mandate they are handed by the people, not to fuck them over and treat them like morons.


Today, ironically, my hat is off to a Labour politician who has at least honestly voiced his opinion regarding Mr Brown.

Manish Sood, who is standing in North West Norfolk, added that Mr Brown was a "disgrace".

Mr Sood called Labour ministers "corrupt" and said the party had allowed immigration to get too high.

Labour said Mr Sood's remarks were "dreadful" and the latest in a series of "bizarre comments" he has made.

Now THAT is the kind of man I could vote for as not only is he a former immigrant himself but he has spoken the absolute truth regarding the whole gang of them. Honesty is a rare commodity in politics these days... a bit like British Gold.


Sorry Keith, I can't let you get aweay with that.

You used the Word "Mandelson" without adding the required addendum of "Self Serving Mendacious Money Grubbing Profiteering Two Faced Backstabbing Little Shit".

Now, you know I'm right, so do pennance. I suggest 50 lines of "I promise not to use the word Mandelson without losing my lunch because he is a pompous prick".

Seem fair to you?

Graham.
 

Keith

Moderator
Yes, quite fair - I should not have used the 'M' word.

Aha but you have used it TWICE so, 200 lines for you Prendergast! And report to me later for a bit of fagging...talking of which you did miss out the uphill gardening bit, but in fairness to those who are sexually aligned in a, er, Greek way, we'll let that go for now.. :)
 
Yes, quite fair - I should not have used the 'M' word.

Aha but you have used it TWICE so, 200 lines for you Prendergast! And report to me later for a bit of fagging...talking of which you did miss out the uphill gardening bit, but in fairness to those who are sexually aligned in a, er, Greek way, we'll let that go for now.. :)

Do we know if it's an urban myth, or fact as to whether his "partner", whilst 'M' was a "member" of the European parliament was given 4000 Euro's a month as an allowance?

He certainly is a member, that much we know to be true. As to my 200 lines, let's haggle. I'll raise you an Alistair Darling (Incompetent Thickston). Raise or see me, the choice is yours...
 

Keith

Moderator
I will confess now that I personally know both (or knew would be more accurate) but I cannot tell you how or in what connection. In fact it did occur to me more than once to contact certain publicity minded folk to make capital out of the relationship in the years following but I detest the 'Media' and their ilk just as much (if not more) than policitians. They are cast in the same sleazy mould and I also have a hatred for hyprocrisy.

To be fair, I quite liked him personally, he was always very polite and quietly spoken but there's something askew with his political thinking, his lust for power and a tacit lack of ability to be honourable in public office.
 

Keith

Moderator
Good find Malcolm - thank you. It really upset me to watch it as they have ruined our wonderful country with their sleaze and ignorance.

I am not partisan to any one political party but I rue the day John Smith tragically died leaving the way clear for Bliar.

JS was the real deal and these idiots should hang their heads in shame for what they have done.. :sad:
 
Nice one Malcolm. I know it's slanted to the Tories, but facts is facts, and these are all true, which is the saddest thing. There is no spin in there....

Makes me deperately sad.

Cheers,

Graham.
 
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