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OK - sorry for the rant above, but I'm done. There are people here who appear to be intelligent and able to bring useful facts to the discussion but don't know how to have the discussion. Many of us spend more time pointing out the hard core partisan attitude in an attempt to bring things closer...

Proof of the partisan child play that is ruining this country. Some people may fit your description above, but I do not. I am registered Independent - I have no interest in following any party; I think for myself. My entire life I purposefully did NOT do what every other kid did. I have never...

How can the same be said of my point bob? Don't just say it and run - explain it. And the hell I haven't questioned my education. You assume that. My points about you are in direct response to things you've said, not made up to fulfill some personal fantasy. I'm an engineer at heart and by...

Observe, folks, why issues like this keep living on and on... people like Bob turn it into partisan political garbage instead of dealing with the situation. Bob, do you really think there are no conservatives involved in this? You have just demonstrated your incredible ignorance. Once again, you...

Oh for crying out loud Pete, that is nowhere near the real situation. That is a very self deserving and entirely incorrect statement. Most people are not whining about the wealthy. They're whining about the every widening gap and how difficult it is to get out of the bottom. The wealthy will...

What planet do you live on? No school tells that however indirectly you claim they're doing it. Keep building your strawman.....

Well, interesting choice of time frame with the .com crash and all... but still, what is that supposed to mean? Let's reverse the order of information in that: The top 1% lost a whopping 26% of their income BUT THEY STILL RAKED IN A GREATER SHARE OF THE NATION'S INCOME. How does that sound...

Here's an interesting chart that shows a little of what people are talking about here: File:United States Income Distribution 1967-2003.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Someone took Census Bureau data and graphed it. Simple way of showing the spreading income gap. This is what gets some...

That's pretty much the same conversation I had the other day with my father in law. I find myself blaming the lazy portion of our society just as much as the next guy, but if you step back and think about it, there are more things at work than solely an individual's personal make-up. I was...

Back in the 90's in Hampton Bays (Long Island, NY) there was a slot car place that had a 6 or 8 lane track (the big 1/24 cars) modeled after Bridgehampton. Really cool. He had another crazy track for the "wing" cars and drag track too. Really cool. If I had the room I'd make one...

Bouef Bourguignon made with homemade Pinot. Damn, nothing compares. Well, maybe a good Moroccan Lamb Tagine which I am going to make tomorrow. (Wife's out of town and she doesn't like lamb - now that's grounds for divorce if you ask me!) A friend of ours has a landscaping business with a...

People are lazy, just not all in the same way. If you point it out then they bitch at you for pointing it out instead of realizing "Oh yeah, you're right." It's written (or typed) mistakes that really get to me, not because they simply made the mistake, but because they aren't applying any...

The unspoken connection between the political left and complete government control vs the right and "freedom" could have been dealt with more professionally... yet another bullshit partisan stab... In a sense, haven't we been an oligarchy for a long, long time already - as a result of both...

Geez, he uses one word you don't agree with (by the way - within the bounds of the pathetic nonsense that can be found lately in the paddock), and you use it to divert away from the topic and shake your finger at him? Come on man, be reasonable...

Ooooh, better watch out. The right might all of sudden stop saying nasty things about the Occupy mob. No, they probably won't. They'll see a few signs and then brand the entire group as stupid and indecisive. Isn't politics so easy folks? Pick a side, find something about the other side you...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.......... unbelievable. I thought that photo (not the real Mendeola one - the Dagger one) looked strange somehow, partly because he's holding pretty much a (supposed to be) one of a kind transmission in where, some dealership shop floor somewhere??? The boiler plate photos...

Wow - so much like the Stratos Zero, or vice-versa.

Excellent point Nick. A bit of sobriety for all. I have to say, on this topic I'm not on either side. I think the degree to which this is going is a bit too far as Bob is arguing, primarily because it is taken up by others outside the family circle, but not necessarily because of the content...

You know folks, it's only going to progress to that point eventually. Look at the progressive evolution of society: from small wandering bands to tribes, to feudal estates / monarchies, to isolated societies living under one common set of laws... What's next? One big happy fun-loving society for...

Too late Bob - we were saying that back before we actually went in...