Oooooooookaaaaaayyy....I can see where this is now heading - delving into definitions, minutia and splitting hairs over opinions and the like rather than much else. (E.g.; where am I liable to find stats on how many EV battery fires fall under self-immolation category vs. some other cause? Do such records even exist?)Please provide a definition of “spontaneous”, and how many EV batteries fall under this category of self-immolation. I’ve been part of a drone/quad copter racing group for a long time, and the vast vast majority of failures occur due to improper charging. Many people charge their drone batteries in cinderblock enclosures or metal ammo cans. Those batteries are crashed, dropped, overheated and otherwise suffer abuse that cars shouldn’t though they can suffer the same fate if damaged.
I really don’t see EV batteries being any more of a risk than ICE vehicles when it comes to fires. The irony is that we in this group are more likely to suffer a fire per capita than a production line car. DIY wiring, combining non-standard components, DIY fuel systems, high stress use, and quality control is only as good as individual skill. How many DIY supercars go up in smoke vs the tens of thousands of boring domestic vehicles?
At any rate, there’s no more reason to fear EV than ICE - however, if I ever build a house, the garage will absolutely not be directly attached to the house. Garages are always a higher fire risk due to everything we discussed. Sparks, engines, fuels, chemicals, vapors… it’s all there.
Nope.Look, you made the statement with a broad brush, and I’m asking you to back it up. I’m not quibbling over minutiae, I just want to know the realistic hazard of an EV battery catching fire in a garage in a situation where it hasn’t been damaged or mistreated by the owner/operator. You can’t just run around saying “OMG Li-ion are HOrRibLe!” without providing context and a comparison to ICE cars’ hazards for catching fire as well. If you want to keep getting excited over water usage to put a fire out, fine…but that’s not data.
? Where is this?In some places, older cars are already required to be sent to a crusher.
If you are a tax payer, you should remember "Cash for Clunkers'...? Where is this?
Car tab hikes...BIG ones (along with whopping 'fines' for either intentionally failing to renew 'em or accidentally allowing 'em to expire)...despite already "having among the highest car annual registration costs in the country". ;-)By the way, I can't wait to see how they replace the gas tax revenue in California...