Nemesis - transaxle

ObligateTarmacivore · Aug 5, 2016

I am looking at the SL Nemesis as my track day diversion, but there's something I don't get.

I would use the VW engine/tranny combo if I were to build one. And I understand that the supported configuration is Audi A4/Passat transmission. The car uses flappy paddles for shifting gear.

The use of paddles thus precludes using a standard H-pattern manual transmission. That leaves just automatics and sequential manuals as options. Since I doubt Audis or Passats have sequential manual transmissions, does that mean that every VW powered Nemesis is an automatic?

The car does have a third pedal (or at least the option in the pedal box). Since the Huyabusa is a motorcycle, and thus uses a sequential gearbox, is that the only option for a manual transmission Nemesis?

I really like the looks and low cost of the car. But I'd really like a manual transmission for a track car. I am not a savage! I'd also like a reverse gear, but maybe that's too much to ask.

Can anyone confirm or refute my thoughts on this?

By the by, what engine/transmission combos are people using, and are they happy with them?

rnixon · Aug 5, 2016

ObligateTarmacivore said:
The car uses flappy paddles for shifting gear.

Where are you getting that information from? I would be surprised if you can't fit a cable gear lever.

The Nemesis was originally bike powered, but the standard is now VW. I haven't seen any pictures of completed VW-powered ones though, but haven't looked either.

Hopefully someone that really knows will be along soon ..

P-nut · Aug 5, 2016

The supported transaxles for the Nemesis are the manual trans cars, with the traditional H-pattern.

I don't know if the DSG-style transaxles could be used at all. They are probably fine physically, but would presumably require some pretty deep programming before they could work in standalone mode. And you'd probably be doing it all by hand, as I am unaware of any tools to code for the controllers they need. If there are such tools, and example of people using them successfully, I'd like to heAr about them, though.

ObligateTarmacivore · Aug 5, 2016

I am more than pleased if the car supports an H-pattern shifter. I have no interest in an automatic. I could get used to a sequential, since I ride a bike anyway. But I would prefer the true manual experience, as I am hostage to an automatic in my daily driver (appeasing the wife on that).
I was just sure I read that it uses flat paddle shifters, hence my query. It would be nice to see one in person. I may have to take a trip to Michigan.

P-nut · Aug 5, 2016

Perhaps you were confused by the original Huyabusa which did have a sequential, and paddles.

The current Nemesis uses the H-pattern manual.

ViperJustin · Aug 5, 2016

THIS, but with cable linked shifting instead of rods.

ObligateTarmacivore · Aug 6, 2016

Cool pic!

ace37 · Aug 6, 2016

The Audi 01E transaxle would be an example of a supported VW transaxle. It has to be longitudinal to work in the Nemesis.

I don't think anyone has a longitudinal DSG box working in a Nemesis at this point - you could take an AWD longitudinal transaxle and run it RWD. You would have reduced torque capacity compared to the rated torque that way.

If you end up getting one, please post up a few pictures of the build and impressions.

ObligateTarmacivore · Aug 7, 2016

I will definitely do that. I'll probably do my build next spring, depending on the job situation. But there seems to be a lack of pictures of VW powered Nemesises (Nemesi?). So documenting it for the group would probably be appreciated by many. It would also be beneficial to have part numbers, like you posted for the transaxle. Thanks for the heads-up on that. I can start using that to look for the part.

:thumbsup:

ViperJustin · Aug 7, 2016

Have you talked to Fran yet? I owned an SL-Razor for a couple years. I tracked it a few times and it was the most fun I've ever had on a track. Ive had my share of cars over the years too.

Adam Rose · Aug 7, 2016

There’s probably a reason you don’t see a lot of completed cars lol. I spent over a year getting a run around from RCR trying to get all the parts after I paid in full…whole thing really soured me on RCR but that’s a story for a different day (PM me if you want to hear about it…)

I used an a4/passat 1.8t with a US model 01X. I choose the transaxle for a number a reasons…

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-Should be plenty strong for a light car and moderately tuned 1.8t
-All aluminum case, fairly lightweight
-Quaife LSD can be made to fit
-6 speeds is more than 5
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To use this transaxle in a nemesis you’ll need custom brackets to adapt to the nemesis chassis, custom bracket to hold the shifter cables, a custom shift arm, modified cable shift (assuming you get one with your kit...), custom made hydraulic line for the clutch and axles. I ended up getting axles directly from the driveshaft shop as RCR could not supply these.

I’m getting close to being able to start up my engine, there was a lot to figure out and some fab work and modifications required to get the engine and trans in and everything hooked up. I can only speculate but it seems to me the car that was designed for hayabusa engine was not significantly changed to fit the VW powertrain which makes some extra work for the builder. With a bit of patience, creativity and a competent welder it’s all very doable – just don’t expect it to be as easy as some may lead you to believe. :thumbsup:

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ObligateTarmacivore · Aug 8, 2016

Not yet. I will probably try to pop over to the factory for a tour next spring. Glad to hear you are having good success with them!

hakalugi · Sep 6, 2016

Nemesis Tandem - will likely be my first SLC/RCR car. So I'm interested to hear what you find out.

motohead · Nov 8, 2016

I have already purchased the transaxle and VW tsi motor for this project. It looks like my only hurdle will be to have a flywheel made. Shouldn't be a big deal. I purchased the Nemesis from a west coast Superlite distributor last year. I bought a new TSI motor, new Audi A4 transaxle, stand alone computer, wire harness, throttle body, and many other parts.
Because of work and other hobbies, I still haven't started to built it. Now I need surgery on my left knee from a motorcycle crash I had on Saturday.
If you know anybody that would be interested in buying everything I have, give me a call. I will make you a deal you can't refuse.
I'm in So California. I can deliver the car or you can just come pick it up. It's sitting on a almost new 16 foot car hauler trailer. Powdercoated frame, flush LED lighting, treated wood deck, and spare tire. Everything goes, for an unbeatable price.

Interested? please call soon. It must go fast.
Thanks, Tim Sharp cell# 951-204-5834
Call or text me with any questions, or if you would like to see pictures.

Tray Houston · Nov 8, 2016

This is something I came across a few weeks back for using an older H-pattern manual with paddle shift...

MASTERSHIFT | Paddle Shifters, Sequential and Electronic ASaP

Had I come across this a few months ago, I would have considered saving up and trying it on a T56 I was running in my RX7

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