And what about P111, originally a roadster, written off, dismantled, tub cut up. Reappears as a coupe with a tub that appears not be genuine. Attached photo was copied from a UK website advertising the car.
PICTURES FROM GT40s AT LE MANS CLASSIC
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This is a cut and copy about another thread in the Worldwide GT40 events :
Bill Peter wrote : "To call J11 and 12 replicas is not a true statment. It is true they were never finished but it is also true that the tubs were built at the same time as J5,6,7,8,9and 10. The Agapous took 2 of the unfinished tubs and ran without a top in the Can Am series. I suspect that if needed later, 11 and 12 would have been finished by Holman or Shelby as "real" cars.
Regarding the FIA papers Tom applied for and received them based on his car and not some fabricated BS about owning one of the original 8. The FIA is trying to institute a system to differentiate between original, untouched cars and built up cars. They have 2 different types of papers. I don't know why, maybe pressure from owners of "original" cars.
By the way, does anyone think that a craftsman like Phil Remington would "crush" the floor of J5? The floor was cut out and a 1/2" pan put below the seat to get the clearance. The only car with the Gurney Bubble was Gurney's car and that is why the interior was cut out. After the race, a number of the cars were painted red and a Gurney bubble was attached. Ford used them for promotions. J7, the one that Andretti crashed, was scabbed together with plywood so it could be rolled around at Ford dealers etc".
and I wrote :
"I agree with Bill, J-11 is not a replica though it is not a period race car. What is important in this case is that the chassis was built with the others in 67.
The entire material constituing the chassis is genuine and it gives authenticity to the car. But authenticity does not make all the value, this MK IV could not pretend to the same value as the historic racers. I think that the value of this car is about 1/2 less than the others ( the fabulous J-6 excepted ). Hopefully the car was not assembled by Sbarro or other "sulphurious" car builders !
What is also important to know is which parts this car is made with ?
Very interesting thread about the Le Mans 2004 cars, do you know which chassis were entered ?
All the best"
... then all the best !
Danny
Bill Peter wrote : "To call J11 and 12 replicas is not a true statment. It is true they were never finished but it is also true that the tubs were built at the same time as J5,6,7,8,9and 10. The Agapous took 2 of the unfinished tubs and ran without a top in the Can Am series. I suspect that if needed later, 11 and 12 would have been finished by Holman or Shelby as "real" cars.
Regarding the FIA papers Tom applied for and received them based on his car and not some fabricated BS about owning one of the original 8. The FIA is trying to institute a system to differentiate between original, untouched cars and built up cars. They have 2 different types of papers. I don't know why, maybe pressure from owners of "original" cars.
By the way, does anyone think that a craftsman like Phil Remington would "crush" the floor of J5? The floor was cut out and a 1/2" pan put below the seat to get the clearance. The only car with the Gurney Bubble was Gurney's car and that is why the interior was cut out. After the race, a number of the cars were painted red and a Gurney bubble was attached. Ford used them for promotions. J7, the one that Andretti crashed, was scabbed together with plywood so it could be rolled around at Ford dealers etc".
and I wrote :
"I agree with Bill, J-11 is not a replica though it is not a period race car. What is important in this case is that the chassis was built with the others in 67.
The entire material constituing the chassis is genuine and it gives authenticity to the car. But authenticity does not make all the value, this MK IV could not pretend to the same value as the historic racers. I think that the value of this car is about 1/2 less than the others ( the fabulous J-6 excepted ). Hopefully the car was not assembled by Sbarro or other "sulphurious" car builders !
What is also important to know is which parts this car is made with ?
Very interesting thread about the Le Mans 2004 cars, do you know which chassis were entered ?
All the best"
... then all the best !
Danny
Hi Rex,
Walter posted pictures from P/1005 at Le Mans, one of my frend went at Goodwood and it was also entered it seems. I'll give him a call and will forward you pictures. Maybe someone knows about the "rebuilding" ...
I have pictures from the GT40 #16 at 66' the Le Mans trials.
All the best
Danny
Walter posted pictures from P/1005 at Le Mans, one of my frend went at Goodwood and it was also entered it seems. I'll give him a call and will forward you pictures. Maybe someone knows about the "rebuilding" ...
I have pictures from the GT40 #16 at 66' the Le Mans trials.
All the best
Danny
