having owned an eclipse, it's a comfortable, ergonomic interior. there is absolutely no reason to bash it. You are not building an eclipse, the eclipse/talon is giving you the center section only. you get nice weather seals, OEM glass/doors windows that already roll up and down, keys that lock the car, carpet, dash etc. If you want to replace some gauges you could. I bet no one would know it's a eclipse interior if you swap out a few things.
edit: HVAC Controls should be enough to tip the scale here!
I agree about the interior comments. Sure they aren't the best factory interior from Mitsubishi, I personally love the 3000gt/stealth interior myself but you can customize it to your liking. That is the beauty of this kit car. You can always buy a nice talon/eclipse that is already built up making good power then strip the car to build this kit.
I love the fact that the car will have an OEM finish from the get go. How many hours of labor and cost does it take guys to build the SL-C with an interior that doesnt seem cheap or like a kit car. The apex would be such a head turner anywhere you go, plus have a nice comfortable interior for long drives. I know when I bought my old 98 3000gt vr4 the interior was so nice. true black interior with grey sparco racing seats. I bought the car in Chicago and drove it home to the south side of Indianapolis. I was about halfway into the drive back(1.5 hours) and my back got super tight. The car was only a fair weather/weekend car. Never drove it to work because I am a boilermaker/pipe fitter. Getting inside a boilers with soot everywhere made me obviously not want to drive my car with a mint interor into work.
What people are failing to think about is the amount of venders/shops that specialize in DSMs. They are relatively cheap to mod with the sheer amount of cars out there there is plenty to choose from to modify the interior and drivetrain. That is what is really cool about kit cars but the apex more than most is that we can buy the kit and go was mild or wild as the owner wants/has the money for and that goes for all aspects of the car. Interior in the car I would build would be pretty mild. Set of suede racing seats, suede dash for the road course and for DDing so there would be no glare in the windshield.
Like I said in the thread before, I want a 3000gt vr4 stroker engine because the stock 3L with forged internals make over 1000 wheel horsepower and thats through the awd system. The vr4 I built was awesome but to beef up the drivetrain was stupid expensive. A shop came out with torque sensing center diff with 300m output shaft but it costs almost 3k, then add in a front and rear LSD and thats almost another 2k. With this are though you can use the vr4 transmission but weld the stock center diff and then block the output shaft hole. They also weld in an aluminum ring piece in the bellhousing to strengthen it up. Add in the billet CNC machined end case and the trans would be bulletproof.
The Apex with the 4.2L or really any stroker size going from 3.4L would straight up be a monster in this car. Pending the amount the 4.2L twin turbo setup is pushed I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this apex could give the TT gallardos a run for their money.
I think this car definitely has a price point that would work for us poor folks who cant afford a build SL-C. I think they should offer it only as a roller from their shop. Sure it will probably add to the entry cost but for peace of mind for me I would gladly pay the extra, have superlite mount the body so they know the fitment quality is spot on. I also think they could have different options for the build. Have the cheapest option use stock brakes and wheels. The second option could be to use the big brake kit, Option 3 could be the big brake kit, the wheels Fran said would come on the car. Could have options for custom paint, front splitter in carbon fiber, rear diffuser and stuff like that. i also agree about the different engine options. Make the subframe to fit the 4g64, but only paint or powdercoat the subframe if the customer is for sure going to use the stock engine from the dsm. If the customer is going to do something custom and different then leave the subframe bare metal to be welded on. That way the customer is paying for the coated subframe twice.
I just hope this car comes out because I have big plans for the engine I want to run, what turbo/turbos, engine management, and interior. I definitely would recommend using the motec pro efi because of the traction control. The supra guys are running it and their 1000 wheel horsepower cars are getting traction on the street. I was reading a thread on supraforums.com and guys were saying with the traction control turned off the car doesnt hook up on the street until 3rd or 4th gear. With the traction contol turned on the car still paints stripes on the street but the car is pulling hard even in 2nd gear. The apex will definitely need something for traction control being that the car will be pretty light, the mid engine design should help some and then with traction control I think the car would be a monster regardless of how much power its making.
thats just my .02 so Fran PLEASE make this kit!! If you decide to scrap it I will buy what you have for the car so far and finish the kit myself!! I would rather see you make them though and make money!