GT40 Replica Manufacturer Choices

[Mike]

Interesting variety of reasons

Michael I can understand the reason for SPF in that sense, life, finances and even taste is not always something that does not alter, so though these cars as said are not baught for resale value, it is good to have it there considering Carol himself has endorsed the SPF as a continuation (unless I understood the video wrong where Carol was there)

I certainly didn't purchase mine because Shelby was even remotely connected. I purchased as SPF because I believe they are all quality products but if you park equally prepared units from each manufacture side by side, the SPF will sell the easiest by a significant margin. This equates to value.

 

[Rick Muck- Mark IV]

I certainly didn't purchase mine because Shelby was even remotely connected. I purchased as SPF because I believe they are all quality products but if you park equally prepared units from each manufacture side by side, the SPF will sell the easiest by a significant margin. This equates to value.

Shelby is not connected to the SPF GT40 in any way save for the "Carroll Shelby Special Edition" that can be ordered via a Shelby dealer. 10K extra for a MK II with CS logos on the seats, door handles, headlamp covers and elsewhere. You can get any of the 1966 LeMans podium cars liverys.

Shelby holds no trade dress or rights to the GT40. He was a contractor racing the cars and had no connection to the manufacture of the cars via FAV or later JWA.

 

[Pat Buckley]

I certainly didn't purchase mine because Shelby was even remotely connected. I purchased as SPF because I believe they are all quality products but if you park equally prepared units from each manufacture side by side, the SPF will sell the easiest by a significant margin. This equates to value.

Using this logic, it is amazing that any other manufacturer sell any cars at all!


Regardless of some peoples feelings about Mr. Shelby, I am pleased that his signature is on my MSO......I think one of a few GT40's that were actually owned by him.

 

[Mike]

Are you saying the logic is flawed? There are certainly other factors that may shape a decision but I believe in the US at least an SPF would be the easiest car to sell at the highest price. Having sunk thousands into many different cars these days I have been considering resale more and more. I owned my GT for 2 years and actually made a little. Wish I would have hung on to it longer.

 

[Jimmy P]

Michael, I respectfully disagree. Apples to Oranges. I've bought and sold many cars over the years. Each person is going to use differning criteria to make his choice about any car they purchase but I would think even more so when buying a specialist car like the GT40. When I bought mine the one issue that kept going through my mind was "none of the cars I'm considering is going to be an original no matter what spin one puts on it." I couldn't afford an original so......I considered many different factors. Each and every manufacture would (I hope) state with certainty why their car is the better purchase. In the end what you're left with is the pros and cons of each. I bought a CAV because I liked the stainless steel chassis and interior look. If an RCR or SPF or Tornado etc would have been sitting next to it I would have still bought the CAV simply because it had what I wanted and I could see it was a quality car and having seen a few others I would still have paid a premium for it. But thats me. If I could buy any non-original car...it'd be a Gelscoe. No offense to any replica maker but to me they are the gold standard by which all others should aspire too. Mind you, they are also very, very pricey.

 

[George]

Jimmy

I always seen TSC/CAV/RCR/SPF etc, what/who is Gelscoe?

 

[Rick Muck- Mark IV]

Jimmy

what/who is Gelscoe?

They don't do carbon fiber/unobtanium.

 

[Dalton Veitch]

Quite the contrast, isn't it? An original GT40 will cost you millions, while an RCR/SPF/CAV, for example, is cheap in comparison. Yet the latter car is far more desirable to me as a usable car. How original do you want?( large steering wheel, rusty steel, race-tuned carburetted engine, cigarette lighter, dodgy high speed aerodynamics?) vs stainless steel or alloy, modern safety gear, engine management, thermal and noise insulation, no leaks, air conditioning, cup-holders? What floats your boat? Buy or build your preferred version.

 

[Ian Anderson]

Jimmy

I always seen TSC/CAV/RCR/SPF etc, what/who is Gelscoe?

George

Gelscoe is a UK company that started repairing originals that had accident damage but continued to produce whole cars based exactly on original specifications. (SPF are close but not exact) SPF in the Uk will cost about £80000 on the road Gelscoe will cost £250000

Google them their work is excellent but for me too far out my cash zone.

Ian

 

[George]

:laugh: rick. Maybe when I get my car built, I am going to call it Unobtanium, sounds interesting. Now if it could be powder coated with moon-dust... gotta talk to NASA about that one if they can bring some back for my project. Wheres the NASA forum?

 

[Mark]

NASA's fooked G. You'd better call the Ruskies.

 

[Keith]

Yeah, they had better wockets. Russki Nazi scientists were much cleverer than NASA Nazi scientists...

And that includes the Paragon of 'virtue' Mr Brown.

 

[George]

Thanks Mark. Maybe there will be less law restrictions to worry about that way. :deal:

Dalton, I totaly agree with that. Get more and better for 2 milion dollars less.

Gelscoe 250 000+ for total replica/original? Yeah, nevermind that, would rather have a better 40 for half that price

 

[Keith]

Thanks Mark. Maybe there will be less law restrictions to worry about that way. :deal:

Dalton, I totaly agree with that. Get more and better for 2 milion dollars less.

Gelscoe 250 000+ for total replica/original? Yeah, nevermind that, would rather have a better 40 for half that price

Well that's all completely debatable I'm afraid ask me what I would rather have. George, I don't really know what you see in a GT40 as you seem itent on turning into something else altogether. A GT40 is a GT40 is a GT40. It is an icon in motor racing history and that's why people like it as they want to be associated with something meaningful in automotive racing history.

Each to their own of course, but I do believe you can achieve your exotic creation with a far more suitable chassis and get more bang for buck without going to the extremes and ending up with, er, a '60's race car.

 

[George]

Keith, all i meant by that was going off what was already said, a 60s all original = no comfort, no air con etc etc and will cost you as said 250,000 for original replica or 2 million for the real thing. On the other hand, you can get one for under 100,000 that will outperform the 250 000 replica original and the 2 million original. Getting the real original I can understand if a person is multi millionair and thus 2 million no big deal and you want the 'real car'. But 250 000 for all original parts but still being a replica, I see that as a waste of 250 000 cause its a replica that performs not as good as 100 000 dollar replicas designed for todays standard. So its not original nor performs like other replicas.

What I see in a GT40 is the shape and the body. Its got the 60s racer look and still looks exotic. The mechanicals dont interest me. The shape does. + its the car that dominated Ferrari, making it a racing legend (irrelivant how it is redesigned to perform today, it still has those roots because it still looks like the GT40)

 

[JimmyMac]

Keith, all i meant by that was going off what was already said, a 60s all original = no comfort, no air con etc etc and will cost you as said 250,000 for original replica or 2 million for the real thing. On the other hand, you can get one for under 100,000 that will outperform the 250 000 replica original and the 2 million original. Getting the real original I can understand if a person is multi millionair and thus 2 million no big deal and you want the 'real car'. But 250 000 for all original parts but still being a replica, I see that as a waste of 250 000 cause its a replica that performs not as good as 100 000 dollar replicas designed for todays standard. So its not original nor performs like other replicas.

What I see in a GT40 is the shape and the body. Its got the 60s racer look and still looks exotic. The mechanicals dont interest me. The shape does. + its the car that dominated Ferrari, making it a racing legend (irrelivant how it is redesigned to perform today, it still has those roots because it still looks like the GT40)

I have unfortunately read some pish and clishmaclaiver in my time but this is sans pareil.

 

[Keith]

but this is sans pareil.

Isn't that a rather interesting 19th century steam locomotive?

"pish and clishmaclaiver"

That comment has to be without parallel on this board...

 

[Dalton Veitch]

Trying not to endorse thread drift, I suggest a new (and necessarily spacious ) Forum category titled in homage to JimmyMac, "Pish and Clishmaclaiver".

 

[Doug S.]

Trying not to endorse thread drift, I suggest a new (and necessarily spacious ) Forum category titled in homage to JimmyMac, "Pish and Clishmaclaiver".

I LIKE the idea, Dalton!

We could even direct all our political "discussions" there........:thumbsup:

Cheers, Doug!!

 

[Mike Pass]

What a car costs is the difference between what you pay for it and what you sell it for. The selling price depends on our old friend "supply and demand". It seems that the the vast prices of originals is due to small (finite) supply and very big demand. If you want to go historic racing a Gelscoe or equivalent exact replica will be essential if you want to get race papers for it. Such an exacting high quality item will keep it's value in the eyes of those who are able to appreciate them. I suspect that the majority on this forum would exchange body parts for one. They would in my view be a much better option than spending wads of cash on a lookalike that is built to what you want but others may not appreciate your taste.

Additionally to get the 60s race car experience you need a 60s race car. Everything you change although it might make it quieter, cooler, faster, grippier, lighter etc. etc. will detract from the driving experience. A blower Bentley is not my cup of tea but making it lighter, lower, quieter etc. will trash it and make it less enjoyable and also less valuable.
As Keith says a 40 is a 40 is a 40. You spends your money and takes your choice - it's your money and your car. However you will eventually sell it............... Or be buried in it in my case!
Cheers
Mike