And so it begins...the AP build.

One thing that has always had me scratching my head is in the attached picture. My car initially was shipped with a roll cage. The lower front corners had 1” aluminum blocks under them as a spacer, so that the spider-door-clam corners would meet up fairly close. Without it, the lower front corner of the windshield is WAY low. All other AP cars that I have looked at have very thin spacers in this area, such as the other build I attached.
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Kyle

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I would slice up that vertical portion all the way across, put the lower half flat on the frame, then fill with fiberglass.
 
That is my plan. I just can't figure out if my frame-dash area is off, or if the lower portion of the spider was laid up wrong.
 
Mounting the body of this thing is like trying to solve all sides of a Rubix Cube. Initially, I set the rear clam so that the wheel was centered in the opening and was relatively close where the clam meets the rocker. The locator pins were places and the latches were installed. Then I built the new tubular rad support to replace the bent aluminum sheeting, keeping the hing location the same as what was shipped from AP. Then I moved on to getting the lower front clam corners to meet the rockers. So far, I have only placed the locator pin on the drivers side. I then removed the clam and placed the windshield in the spider and got the front corners and lower B-pillars bolted down with what I felt were workable gaps between the door-spider-rear clam. I put the front clam back on and this is where things go backwards again. With the spider bolted down, the lower drivers corner is too far forward when I want to pit the clam on the locator pin. It seems like I get one problem solved, only to cause another! When do you say "To Hell with it!" and start cutting?
When you run out of patience and feel like gambling a bit is the best approach forward
 
Driver’s side A-pillar is warped 1/4”. Decided to split into the inside seam and figured out a way to brace it and clamp it to straighten. Several rounds of heating and cooling before I thought it was as close as I could get it before applying epoxy to the seam. We’ll see how it looks when I pull the clamps.
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Looking for ideas on the best way to tackle the sag in the rear of the spider. I can’t tell if the roof of the clam at the top front is warped and has too much arc, or if the rear roof of the spider is too flat.
I can’t wait to get all of these body lines squared away. It’s gonna make the mechanical end of the build seem like a cake walk!
Did a smash and clamp on the spider feet bottoms to get them flat, which will make shimming to get gaps easier. They originally had a 1”lip on the inside 1/2 that made accurate shimming nearly impossible.
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Brian

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If you're OK with the spider being permanently attached to the roll bar, I would put small wood shims where you need them to get the height/shape right, maybe one every 10" then put a backer on one side, and pack it with light weight bondo, making a nice fillet where the bondo meets the spider, then add a layer of a lose weave glass from the spider, over the roll bar, then back to the spider if you can get to it.

I made a huge deck lid for a Kelmark bonding a light DOM frame to a glass shell this way. It was much easier with gravity on my side than you will have. Protect and prepare accordingly. You might even want to devise a vacuum forming system to mash the glass into the spider.

Since building my Cobra 16 years ago, I've come up with some creative ways to make composite things in the shop.

If you don't want it permanent, you can add a layer of packing tape over the roll bar and omit the glass, and still make a nice saddle shaped continuous shim that you could silicon to the roll bar. The tape will not adhere to the bondo, epoxy or polyester resin, or whatever you use,
 

Randy V

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I am pretty sure I supported the rear of the spider on my RCR with tabs that were riveted to the firewall. Car is long gone now or I would check.
 
I layed a straight edge on the spider roof where it meets the clam, and it has a peak in the middle. I think the problem may actually be that the front of the clam is warped, and that is at least part of the problem. I packed in a bunch of wood shims between the top of the roll bar and the underside of the spider to support the spider in the very middle. I’m gonna heat up the front-top middle of the clam to see if I can take some of the arc out of the middle and get it closer to the level of the spider.
 

Randy V

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Joe - there is a mild curvature of the roofline of the GT40. There have been threads address that in the recent past. I’m remote right now so really can’t search for them.
 
More workable now. Maybe one more heating to fine tune a few spots to get it a little closer. By the time I put adjustable bumpers on the top of the roll bar that will support the underside of the spider’s roof, I should be ok.
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Thickened the clam lip with fortified epoxy. This will allow me to sand the front of the clam to get the seam I want with the back of the spider without have to worry about sanding the original fiberglass too thin. It was only about 3/16” originally.
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Brian

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I see you have the same problem I have. At the junction of the top and side on the spider, there's a body line missing that is in the door and clam.

Did you thicken that so you could grind one in?
 
I thickened the lip of the clam so I can grind in the correct gap between it and the spider. Same technique used with steel cars, only difference is you add weld to build up, then grind in the gap. Once gaps are set, I’ll apply filler to get panel to panel flush.
I finished applying 2 layers of glass to the backside of the front clam bracing. There are also a couple of openings that I am closing off. Laid one layer with laminating resin to close off and get the shape. I’ll come back with a couple more layers, once the foundation layer sets.
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Brian

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Inside the circle, on the spider, there's a body line (black line in circle) in the door and clam that is flat out omitted.

I've been waiting to see how everyone else handles this. My instinct says it must be corrected and will be vary careful angle grinding, but will need to be backed up first because I'm sure it's not thick enough to just grind the finish side down.

Or it needs to be filled in on the door, and feathered in on the clam.
 
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