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Al Wohlstrom

Mesa said:
Right on the money Terry.

If they do not police themselves somebody else will eventually have to clean up the mess.

The moderate silence on their side is deafening. And telling.
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I think probably that the moderates are threatened by the radicals, and as long as the rest of the world is all kissy, huggy towards Muslims, why say anything. Plus you have countries like Saudi Arabia that covertly sponsors terrorist (15 of 19 9/11 terrorist were Saudi) and makes nice to the US. Plus it's OK to lie if it serves their purpose.
TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Taqiyya and Lying
 
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Al Wohlstrom

At some point people are going to pull their PC heads out of the sand, it might be too late. If looking at those videos doesn't scare the hell out of you, something is very wrong. Once again, why is the world so PC about Islam?
 
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Al Wohlstrom

Whether your a Christian, Atheist, or other, this should have meaning to you.

WHAT IS AN INFIDEL ?
>
>
> The author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry. The man
> who walks with God always gets to his destination. If you have a pulse you
> have a purpose.
>
> The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United
> States , especially in the minority races.
>
> Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
> maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session
> there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic,
> Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.
>
> I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The
> Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a
> video.
>
> After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When
> it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:
>
> 'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and
> clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels
> of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all
> Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you
> give me the definition of an infidel?'
>
> There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he
> replied, " Nonbelievers"
>
> I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
> Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they
> can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'
>
> The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that
> of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'
>
> He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'
>
> I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine The Pope
> commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering
> all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in
> heaven!'
>
> The Muslim was speechless.
>
> I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your
> brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a
> question:
>
> Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you
> to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to
> heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'
>
> You could have heard a pin drop.
>
> Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification'
> training seminar were not happy with my way of dealing with the Islamic
> Imam, and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
>
> In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the US. to elect the
> President.
 
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Nick

Al Wohlstrom said:
Whether your a Christian, Atheist, or other, this should have meaning to you.

WHAT IS AN INFIDEL ?
>
>
> The author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry. The man
> who walks with God always gets to his destination. If you have a pulse you
> have a purpose.
>
> The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United
> States , especially in the minority races.
>
> Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
> maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session
> there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic,
> Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.
>
> I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The
> Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a
> video.
>
> After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When
> it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:
>
> 'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and
> clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels
> of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all
> Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you
> give me the definition of an infidel?'
>
> There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he
> replied, " Nonbelievers"
>
> I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
> Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they
> can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'
>
> The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that
> of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'
>
> He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'
>
> I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine The Pope
> commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering
> all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in
> heaven!'
>
> The Muslim was speechless.
>
> I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your
> brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a
> question:
>
> Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you
> to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to
> heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'
>
> You could have heard a pin drop.
>
> Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification'
> training seminar were not happy with my way of dealing with the Islamic
> Imam, and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
>
> In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the US. to elect the
> President.
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Absolute load of rubbish I am afraid and proof that people will believe anything they want to believe if it supports their argument.

According to Tim Kniest, Public Information Officer for the Missouri Department of Corrections, the event described was a training program for prison volunteers, for which ministers from several faiths were invited to give presentations in order to acquaint prison volunteers with the varied religious beliefs of the inmate population. The man who gave the presentation about Islam was not a Muslim minister; he was an inmate pressed into service to present a short film on Islam and answer some questions when the prison's Volunteer Coordinator was "unable to find an Imam to speak."

Moreover, reported Mr. Kniest, the prison's Volunteer Coordinator said that "The inmate did a good job," adding, "He was asked a few questions that were beyond his ability to answer. But he was not asked anything like that question [in the editorial]":
 
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