I feel I must step in before things get out of hand. There was no bias. The three organising committee members attended along with 12 other members chosen from a random ballot of members. When you see the next club mag, you'll see a number of faces from all over the country, not simply the SE. A good percentage of attendees I'd never met and whose names I've never heard of before. Gelsco were very inviting, but asked for the visit to be low key in order not to create a stampede. It's hoped this can become an annual event, those who attended this year, will be kept out of the next ballot for fairness. However, it takes a lot of organising and I'd ask those who are shouting loudest here to use their energies in a positive way and stand up to volunteer to organise similar trips in the future. I can honestly say, that a number of committee members who do put a lot of work into our club, weren't fortunate enough to find their names coming out of the ballot either. If this nonsense carries on, then the club will become fragmented and visits such as Gelsco might not be possible in future. The committee does it's best for the entire club and I will not let bias creep into our decisions, as can be proved by my inclusion of committee members from all over the country who take part in meetings via teleconference. Martin G, some time ago I asked if you'd like to volunteer your services on the committee, but you declined. Perhaps now you'd like to stand for committee membership at the next AGM in order your voice can be heard in a democratic way? Finally, this airing of views in public is not helpful and can only ruin the good work we've put into making the club what it is. If you've any further grumbles, then you know my telephone number. I send you all my sincerest best wishes.. Andrew (Chairman)