Jeff Young
GT40s Supporter
Is the right to bear arms outdated.
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Jeff,
Which part brought down my grade, the quote which is my wife's translation from a late '40's German newspaper article, or my understanding of our forefathers reasoning for the Second Amendment?
Now remember, Jeff, today is Washington’s 281st birthday!!
Tom
Which part brought down my grade, the quote which is my wife's translation from a late '40's German newspaper article, or my understanding of our forefathers reasoning for the Second Amendment?
Now remember, Jeff, today is Washington’s 281st birthday!!
Tom
I found this interesting because the Japanese are often used as an example for gun control:
The original question was "When and why did Japan ban guns?"
"The reason Japan first imposed gun control in the 1600's was because of the empowerment which guns provided for lower castes. Even with a lifetime of military training, a samurai could still be shot dead by a peasant with a gun. This equalizer was a great threat to the social hierarchy of Japan, and so guns had to be regulated."
The original question was "When and why did Japan ban guns?"
"The reason Japan first imposed gun control in the 1600's was because of the empowerment which guns provided for lower castes. Even with a lifetime of military training, a samurai could still be shot dead by a peasant with a gun. This equalizer was a great threat to the social hierarchy of Japan, and so guns had to be regulated."
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Holy crap. I had to check myself there. For just a minute I saw this thread and thought time had gone into a perpetual loop. luckily my coffee went cold, causing me to realise that what I thought to be a temporal anomaly, was, in fact, simply this bloody thread going round and round and round and rou.................
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
:lol::lol::lol::lol::dead::dead::dead::shrug:
So, again, history repeats itself...
There's now a movement afoot here in the U.S. to get the U.S. Supreme Court to, in effect, strike down our CLEAR constitutional right to carry concealed weapons. That's just plain NUTS.
Had The Founders NOT intended to grant us the right to carry concealed, they'd have SAID IN PLAIN ENGLISH we had the right to 'BEAR OPENLY, BUT NOT CONCEALED'. But, they didn't. They said we have the right to BEAR ARMS - PERIOD.
I would submit that forcing everyone to carry openly is just an outright invitation to disaster. (If someone needs an explanation spelling out WHY that's the case - there's no hope for 'em.)
Just when y'all thought this thread was dead & buried:
Here's a vid of a REAL LIFE situation that ought to answer Pete's original question, "Is the right to bear arms outdated", once and for all.
Oh, and Pete?, please note the perp here isn't an an Indian, nor is he wearing a Civil War uniform!
Veteran turns tables on would-be robber | Fox News Video
Now, all you 'anti-carry' types can SPECULATE all you want as to what might have happened if the counterman HADN'T been packin' - but there's absolutely no question about what actually DID happen here because he WAS.
And did any of you 'gun-owners-are-all-wild-west-COWBOYS-who'll-use-any-excuse-to-shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later' people notice the counterman SHOT N-O-B-O-D-Y???????????
'Sorry to 'bump' the thread...but, this vid was just too darned applicable.
'I shuddup' now...
Here's a vid of a REAL LIFE situation that ought to answer Pete's original question, "Is the right to bear arms outdated", once and for all.
Oh, and Pete?, please note the perp here isn't an an Indian, nor is he wearing a Civil War uniform!
Veteran turns tables on would-be robber | Fox News Video
Now, all you 'anti-carry' types can SPECULATE all you want as to what might have happened if the counterman HADN'T been packin' - but there's absolutely no question about what actually DID happen here because he WAS.
And did any of you 'gun-owners-are-all-wild-west-COWBOYS-who'll-use-any-excuse-to-shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later' people notice the counterman SHOT N-O-B-O-D-Y???????????
'Sorry to 'bump' the thread...but, this vid was just too darned applicable.
'I shuddup' now...
Jeff Young
GT40s Supporter
Somehow I doubt it....
Homework assignment for Larry -- write to each of the families of the 10,000 folks killed by guns last year and explain to them how your one video is worth more than the life of their family member.
Go!
That store clerk is a veteran and a prison guard. I'm sure he is well trained and why shouldn't he be able to carry?
Here is the real problem.......... the clerk prevented the robbery and now the potential charges have been reduced from armed robbery to attempted robbery. He will get probation and next time he needs a quick $300, he will just shoot the clerk from the candy aisle because asking nicely does not work in this country anymore!
Why have we not installed trap doors just in front of the counter at all convenience stores yet? Just hit a button and the floor opens up revealing a water slide that splashes down in Mexico.
Just kidding, carry on gentlemen.
Here is the real problem.......... the clerk prevented the robbery and now the potential charges have been reduced from armed robbery to attempted robbery. He will get probation and next time he needs a quick $300, he will just shoot the clerk from the candy aisle because asking nicely does not work in this country anymore!
Why have we not installed trap doors just in front of the counter at all convenience stores yet? Just hit a button and the floor opens up revealing a water slide that splashes down in Mexico.
Just kidding, carry on gentlemen.
Not unless the judge is a liberal LOON. The fact that a GUN was used SHOULD prohibit "probation".
Holy resurrected thread, Batman!
'Looks like at least one LEO has finally 'seen the light' with regard to what reality actually looks like. Maybe he saw the above vid:
Detroit police chief James Craig says more citizens should be armed | Fox News
'Looks like at least one LEO has finally 'seen the light' with regard to what reality actually looks like. Maybe he saw the above vid:
Detroit police chief James Craig says more citizens should be armed | Fox News
Not really Larry what the officer is saying is " We have failed to adequately protect the citizens of Detroit and dont look like being able to anytime soon, under the circumstances we feel its best that you deal with criminals yourselves by shooting them"
Bob
Bob
Sounds to me that he is advocating the use of guns as lethal force to stop crime that the police can't stop.
Agreed. You and Al are BOTH exactly right.
But, he is also saying that a .45 cal. round (or cal. of your preference) can get to/stop a bad guy anywhere, anytime, looooong before a LEO can, and, as a citizen, one has the right not only to own/carry a firearm - one has the right to defend himself with it too. BOTH are completely legal and proper.
Which would any rational person rather have in his hand during a home invasion for instance; a phone or a hand gun? 'No brainer 'far as I'm concerned...
