Obama to give $400 Million to Palestine.

Oh lets not get into history buddy because the crusades were all you (and you all talk smack about Jihad; what was different about what you did)! how about the Tudor years, Oh and there was that pesky little war over here (which you tried to do what you accuse Israel of)? Your history has been paved with more blood than most so lets not forget about that. Now as far as paying back YOUR COUNTRY'S DEBT how about a thank you and we call it a day. See we know how to turn the better cheek on this side of the pond. Now before this gets out of hand I would be happy to continue this enlightening discussion via PM, IM, or any other form just not on here since this has already started to take an ugly turn and i don't want to add to it any longer.
 
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Hi guys,

I'm french, and I often come to this forum, because of the GT, but also because I find the paddock area really instructive, about your (US and UK citizens) thoughts about almost everything. I've learned english at school but almost nothing about your both cultures... All I know is what is shown on tv news, movies...

Well that said, I oftenly read posts about Obama's policy.

It's clear that most of you who are participating are not big fans. And I do not always understand why.

I might be conside"red by some of you as a "too much lefted heart guy" but, concerning Israelly Vs Palestinians "war", how much do you think this situation has an influence about your lives?

I think I'm far from getting all the answers, but Israel is the only "occidentalised" country of this area. Israel gets the bomb. Israel is then keeping a fragile equilibrium between occident and most of the arabics countries.

IF the situation Israel Vs Palestine is getting worst and worst, it could drive the area to a nightmare, don't you think?
Iran is not that far, and will probably get the bomb in a very near future.

And IF Obama's annoucement was just a political way to tell Israel: "Well, it's time to stop now, before the point of no return, we could stop our help"

Europe is the first money giver to Palestine, and it piss me off also, as I pay a lot of taxes, and that my money is used for that. But there must be a reason, and a good one...

I'm not antisemithic nor anti arabic, I don't care about religions and so on. But, Israel as stated before has the power to erase palestine, falrly easily. For me, that's a fact that Tsaal regularly makes civils death (as Hamaas does with theur rockets). This situation will be endless, until they will (because, one day, they will have to) recognise palestine as a state.

Do you think that all palestinians are terrorists, and deserve to die?
Do you think that Israel is a paradise?

Every palestinian doesn't belong to the hamaas. Nor every Islraely is a child killer.

This "war" has not only religious origins, and land domination origins. I think it's far more complex than that.
Where the hamaas find the money, and why do they find some?

It could be discussed for hours and hours...

Just one last thing about GW fans arround: who did engaged your soldiers in Iraq and in Afghanistan, and why (mass destruction weapons, oil, geopolitical ) ?
How much did it costs to USA (and to UK?), in lives and in $?
Is the situation in those countries better now?

Don't make me wrong, I don't want to offense anybody, i'm sad for all your soldiers, and everybody which was in the towers.

All I mean is there is never a simple answer to this questions, and all this problems should be looked really in depth in order for each one to make his own opinion.

Sorry for my bad english, and thanks for all of you who read that loooong post

Olivier.
 
Now to say that Israel is making unprovoked attacks on HARMLESS FISHING BOATS all I can do is LAUGH. The horn of Africa come to mind. During a time of war only someone that has something to hide would when asked to board by ANY military ship. If you give them crap than that's on you.

Olivier,

Think you hit the nail on the head with your post.


Damian,

Link to program, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd6SklTzn1A

I suggest you watch all of it but the relevant bit to the above is about 6min 40 seconds in.

I do not believe it will make you laugh.

regards

Nick
 
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Funny.

Any criticism of Israel is labelled anti-semitic.

Any criticizm of Obama labelled racist.

Yes... There is huge over sensitivity regarding Israel. ANY criticism is always cited as antisemitic. I like to think that a balanced view will always win the day, but unfortunately (in this case), that's not going to happen.

Graham.
 
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