Most (more) accurate dash?

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James

SPF MKII is currently being built (still in SA, but will go to Olthoff), and one thing I've realized--I don't like the dash (the layout and overall feel). Wanted to ask if anyone can point me in the right direction of who makes and sells a more accurate/original style dash that I can use instead. My preference would be Gelscoe/GM Automotive Engineering, but they haven't returned my emails, and not sure they make a LHD dash anyway.

@DakotaGT : I saw that Ted Baird replaced his SPF dash with something else, but haven't been able to determine what. Any chance you could give some insight?

Thanks in advance.
 
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James

turb00le said:
What do you feel is off on the spf dash?
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Generally, I don't care for the overall layout, but my understanding is also that the SPF dash is made from a different material (coated ABS plastic) than the originals (fiberglass, I think). The SPF dash feels too modernized, which probably works for most people, but if I can make a change, I'd prefer to do it when Olthoff has the car, rather than after its complete.

pattersonlee said:
Gelscoe would not make a LHD tub so I doubt same for the dash.
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My thought as well.
 
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Central console is different as they added ignition lock. Different vents. Other than that looks more or less the same? Original did not have that good finish.
 
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JayWaze said:
SPF MKII is currently being built (still in SA, but will go to Olthoff), and one thing I've realized--I don't like the dash (the layout and overall feel). Wanted to ask if anyone can point me in the right direction of who makes and sells a more accurate/original style dash that I can use instead. My preference would be Gelscoe/GM Automotive Engineering, but they haven't returned my emails, and not sure they make a LHD dash anyway.

@DakotaGT : I saw that Ted Baird replaced his SPF dash with something else, but haven't been able to determine what. Any chance you could give some insight?

Thanks in advance.
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James,
you write you have am MKII on order, how does a proper MKII dash look anyway?
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The toolroom dash will require a LOT of changes to the wiring. If a toolroom owner purchases a copy of my SUPERFORMANCE Wiring Diagram, I caution them regarding the differences in wiring. The MKI and MKII manuals are geared for the non-toolroom cars but still of interest to the Toolroom customer. But they might be able to swap harness sections too.
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Speaking from experience - skip the AMP gauge and find a suitable Voltmeter. There are some that look very much like the original Amp gauge, but I couldn’t tell you where to find them right-off..
 
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Tool room dash and MK II dash layouts are completely different. Gauges, switches, lights, layout, switch plates, etc.

Recommend calling Adam Christian from Llama Bite. He can provide guidance and parts for the MKII. He is a MKII expert.

I am intimately familiar with both cars.

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James

I should probably clarify that I'm not so much concerned with the gauge, switch, and light layout, as I am getting the most accurate shape and material of the dash itself. If any layout changes need to be made, my plan is to address with Olthoff during install, and they'll take the laboring oar on wiring.

I think there's an appreciable difference between the material of the original fiberglass dash and what SPF is doing now. For the shape, it looks like the SPF tool room dash gets it more correct than the standards. Maybe the fix is just chopping the lower portions of the standard dash off, but if we're getting into modifications like that, I'd rather try and source one from somewhere else that is correct and also fiberglass.

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and (Gelscoe)

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James

Looks like tool-room dash is an option from the factory, but wondering if y'all can help with a couple questions.

Looks like the tool-room dash has a fire light, but what's the button to the right of it for? I'd think it's to activate the fire suppression system, but in tool-room cars there's a pull handle in-between the seats as well. I've also seen switches on a few different dashes for "rain," or like in the picture below for "dip" and "tail," but I'm not sure what their function is. Sorry if these are dumb questions, but this is my first venture into racing type cars, so my level of knowledge is still developing. Thanks in advance.

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JayWaze said:
Looks like tool-room dash is an option from the factory, but wondering if y'all can help with a couple questions.

Looks like the tool-room dash has a fire light, but what's the button to the right of it for? I'd think it's to activate the fire suppression system, but in tool-room cars there's a pull handle in-between the seats as well. I've also seen switches on a few different dashes for "rain," or like in the picture below for "dip" and "tail," but I'm not sure what their function is. Sorry if these are dumb questions, but this is my first venture into racing type cars, so my level of knowledge is still developing. Thanks in advance.

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Interesting "fire light". I wonder how it senses a fire?

My black Mirage has an IR fire detector that uses 2 wavelengths of infrared to sense the presence of a fire and it illuminates a warning on my instrument panel. This is a photo of the indicator when I was building the instrument panel. The detector itself was made by the Walter Kidde C
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ompany for some sort of advanced aircraft application.
 
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James

I would've thought it's an oil pressure light (and maybe it is--but I haven't spoken with anyone to say one way or the other), until I saw the below picture. The car that this picture was taken from doesn't have the fire pull handle mechanism between the seats, so it would make sense that the button in this picture is for the fire system.

But what about the function of the button in the same spot in post #5 above (that car does have the pull handle in between the seats, so I doubt it has both the pull handle and a button)?

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James

Thanks, Rob. I've been keeping up with your build, and wanted to congratulate you on the progress. It really looks incredible.

Is that a "Fire" light or button? I'm also guessing the amber colored light on the right side is for oil pressure?
 
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