Stand down!

"In a bombshell interview with Fox News anchor Bret Baier aired last week, the three members of the annex security team, whose credibility was etched in blood on that rooftop that fateful night, say they had a team assembled and were ready to proceed to the besieged consulate within five minutes of notice of the attack. They were held back by the top CIA security officer in Benghazi, they say, an officer identified only as "Bob."
"It had probably been 15 minutes, I think, and ... I just said 'Hey, you know, we gotta — we need to get over there, we're losing the initiative,'" Tiegen told Baier in the interview. "And Bob just looks at me and said, 'Stand down, you need to wait.'"
Why "Bob" gave that order or whether he was just passing on orders from superiors was not discussed, although it is a crucial question that makes a big difference in the true narrative of that night. After 30 minutes of waiting, Tiegen and the security team headed for the consulate while asking for air support, any kind of air support, even an F-16 buzzing the compound.
Paronto said that without the delay, "Ambassador Stevens and Sean (Smith), yeah, they would still be alive, my gut is yes," adding that "I strongly believe that if we left immediately, they'd still be alive today."
There was even a second stand-down order, according to the trio in their book, "13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened in Benghazi," written with Mitchell Zuckoff. After Tiegen insisted they had to leave right away, "Bob" told them to "hold up" because "we're going to let the local militia handle it." It was an incredible order, one telling Americans not to rescue Americans."


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Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
These deaths all happened under BushII, why no outrage?


The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they’re being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.
January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.
June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.
October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.
February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.
May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.
July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.
December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.
March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)
September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.
January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.
March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.
July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.
September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Read more at 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News | The Daily Banter

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You can scream Benghazi from the roof tops, no one cares!

Everyone knows this is just the right grabing at straws........

Hillery will still become president in 2016.
 
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What makes this one a little different is that a U.S. Ambassador was pulled out of our embassy and slowly, brutally murdered. Three other Americans died trying to save him.

What make it heinous is that we now have witnesses finally able to come forward and reveal that help was told to stand down twice.

But then, "what difference does it make now anyway," right?

Well to hilary I'll say, coverups get people into trouble. Even little ones like the Watergate break in. But to cover up an incident at this level of government, with this kind of mortal cost, can only be pulled off by a liberal regime, backed by a willing press.
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
Is this about Benghazi AGAIN?

Can't we let that go?

There's plenty to complain about regarding the "other" party, as Jim has so aptly pointed out...but what's the use?

Besides...Jim is right about the next POTUS...IF we can get her to run! The majority of the public has gotten over the outrage about Benghazi...it will not be a deal-breaker for the voting public when it comes to Hillary's presidential "run" (which she still does not admit is in the cards).

Trolling again, LB?.....shame, shame, shame....

Doug
 
Yes Doug S. (where's our enforcement of rule #2 Moderators?), its back to that inconvenient truth about how an American Ambassador and three Americans trying to defend him were brutally dragged through the streets and murdered while forces who were on duty were ordered twice to stand down.

I know, "What difference does it make now." Well, I don't want leaders who don't take responsibility for the entities they direct.

The entire world should be concerned that people like this are running a massive power like America. Look at the state of affairs "leading from behind" have gotten us.

And as for your "shaming" me, this is a current issue that was suppressed by the current regime for years because of the damaging evidence it brings forth.

You might not find it on your favorite news source, but the first public hearings on Benghazi are scheduled for next week, September 17.



Is this about Benghazi AGAIN?

Can't we let that go?

There's plenty to complain about regarding the "other" party, as Jim has so aptly pointed out...but what's the use?

Besides...Jim is right about the next POTUS...IF we can get her to run! The majority of the public has gotten over the outrage about Benghazi...it will not be a deal-breaker for the voting public when it comes to Hillary's presidential "run" (which she still does not admit is in the cards).

Trolling again, LB?.....shame, shame, shame....

Doug
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

They had continually asked for better security, after the second attack they pleaded for better security.....

I wonder why Mr Fechter is not insenced by this tragedy?

Could it be that he really does not really care about Consulate deaths, he only cares about events that Fox tells him to care about.
 
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Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

They had continually asked for better security, after the second attack they pleaded for better security.....Bush let the die!

I wonder why Mr Fechter is not insenced by this tragedy?

I think we all know why, Jim.

Cheers!

Doug
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
These deaths all happened under BushII, why no outrage?


The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they’re being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.
January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.
June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.
October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.
February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.
May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.
July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.
December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.
March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)
September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.
January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.
March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.
July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.
September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Read more at 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News | The Daily Banter

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You can scream Benghazi from the roof tops, no one cares!

Everyone knows this is just the right grabing at straws........

Hillery will still become president in 2016.


Talk about grabbing at straws! Trying to equate the incidents on your list with Benghazi is really quite pathetic.

Please provide evidence of a COVER UP in each of those incidents.

Please point out any evidence of "stand down" orders given to 'rescue forces' by anyone involved in any one of those.

Please indicate which incident(s) was preceded by multiple requests for additional security which were denied or ignored.

Please point out which of those incidents generated sealed indictments.
President Obama's Surprise Revelation of Sealed Benghazi Indictment - ABC News



You can scream Benghazi from the roof tops, no one cares!

Oh, I bet I can point out at least a few who do...for starters, the families of those who were murdered. The only people who "don't care" seem to be folks such as yourself...those who "don't care" for political reasons/convenience...perhaps best exemplified by the utterance of our Sec. of State at the time who, very much like you, tried to cast the whole incident aside with the rebuff, "What difference at this point does it make?"

G'day, y'all...
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Yes Doug,

Mr Fechter's handelers have told him that these four deaths are more important than the 91 deaths under BushII.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
In 1983 debacle, Reagan escaped blame for hundreds of US deaths.


<DL id=story-font-size class=moz-border><DT></DT></DL>
Tuesday, Oct. 23, a little less than two weeks ago, was the 29th anniversary of one of the greatest catastrophes not only in Marine Corps history but in American history.
At 6:39 a.m. on that autumn day in 1983, 220 Marines, 18 sailors and three American civilians were killed and another 60 were injured as a result of a horrific explosion detonated by a terrorist suicide truck bomb that destroyed the Marine barracks at the airport in Beirut, Lebanon.

It was the largest one-day death toll for Marines since the Battle for Iwo Jima in 1945.

Those Marines had been ordered into Lebanon by President Ronald Reagan as a part of an international peacekeeping force following the June 1982 Israeli invasion of that country and the Palestine Liberation Organization’s withdrawal.

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Making an already-dangerous situation even more hazardous, the Marines were under strict presidential orders not to load their weapons — this, so that they would appear as peacekeepers and not as armed belligerents in the conflict and despite the fact that they were moving into a war zone.

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Realistically, they had become “sitting ducks” from the moment they entered Beirut. And as a result of their absurd orders, when the explosives-laden truck sped toward their doomed barracks, the two unarmed guards had no way of stopping it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to Col. Timothy J. Geraghty, the commander of the Marines in Beirut: “It didn’t take a military expert to realize that our troops had been placed in an indefensible situation.

From the outset, the American embassy in Beirut had sent numerous cables warning Washington that the invasion would provoke terrorism and undermine America’s standing in the Mideast. But there was no response.

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The Reagan administration immediately attempted to deflect blame for the attack with a deluge of false statements and misrepresentations.

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In a televised speech four days after the bombing, the president insisted the attack was unstoppable, erroneously declaring that the truck crashed through a series of barriers, including a chain-link fence and barbed-wire entanglements, and argued that the U.S. mission was succeeding. He made no mention of the order to unload their guns.

Despite the fact that Reagan had dispatched the Marines into an impossible situation and then had issued orders that led to their inability to defend themselves, he suffered relatively little criticism from the press or partisan opponents, and after months of vigorous campaigning was overwhelmingly re-elected the following year.

Contrast this with the controversy over the recent attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, where on Sept. 11, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were assassinated.

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So Reagan puts Marins in danger, he ordered the guards to unload their guns, so they could not stop the attack and then covered it up!


Sending US troups into danger and ordering them to unload their guns.......Mr Fechter, Larry are you OK with that?



Why are Mr Fechter and Larry outraged about four deaths....


But Republicans causing 200+ deaths by making the guards "Stand down" with unloaded guns and then covering it up, no problem.

Hypocrites!
 
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Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Mr Fechter claims to care about Americans who die because the government faild to protect them. He must be absolutly outraged at Republican President Reagan!

Marines had been ordered into Lebanon by President Ronald Reagan, making an already-dangerous situation even more hazardous...

*******The Marines were under strict presidential orders not to load their weapons*******

He did this, so that they would appear as peacekeepers and not as armed belligerents in the conflict and despite the fact that they were moving into a war zone.

As a result of their absurd orders, when the explosives-laden truck sped toward their doomed barracks, the two unarmed guards had no way of stopping it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From the outset, the American embassy in Beirut had sent numerous cables warning Washington that the invasion would provoke terrorism and undermine America’s standing in the Mideast. But there was no response.

The guards ordered by Reagan to unload their guns could not stop the truck bomb, 240+ Americans were killed.

The Reagan administration immediately attempted to deflect blame for the attack with a deluge of false statements and misrepresentations.

In a televised speech four days after the bombing, the president insisted the attack was unstoppable, erroneously declaring that the truck crashed through a series of barriers, including a chain-link fence and barbed-wire entanglements, and argued that the U.S. mission was succeeding. He made no mention of the order to unload their guns.

Of course Reagan then pulled the "succesful" U.S. mission out, showing everyone that terrorism works great against the USA!


So Reagan puts Marins in danger, he ordered the guards to unload their guns, so they could not stop the attack and then covered it up!


We have Republicans causing 240+ deaths by making the guards "Stand down" with unloaded guns and then covering it up.

Mr Fechter, please comment on the Reagan stand down order, the hundreds of American deaths, the cover up and who should be held accountable. <!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Talk about grabbing at straws! Trying to equate the incidents on your list with Benghazi is really quite pathetic.

Please provide evidence of a COVER UP in each of those incidents.

Please point out any evidence of "stand down" orders given to 'rescue forces' by anyone involved in any one of those.

Please indicate which incident(s) was preceded by multiple requests for additional security which were denied or ignored.
Posted by Larry

Say Larry,

I was sure that you would want to talk about The hundreds of American deaths that came from Reagans stand down order.

I was sure you wanted to talk about Reagans lies and cover up in the deaths of hundreds of Americans.

I was sure you wanted to talk about the repeated requests for better security, requests to actually put bullets in their guns. Those requests were ignored by Reagan, leading to hundreds of American deaths.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Mr Fechter, Larry

Do you think that President Reagan was right when he sent Marines into a war zone in Lebanon and ordered them to unload their weapons?

Was it right for Reagan to order the "guards" at the Marine barracks to "stand down" and carry unloaded weapons?

Do you think it was right for Reagan to ignore repeated request for better security?

Do you think it was right for Reagan to go on national tv and mislead the people, try and cover up the facts of the attack?

Why are conservatives outraged about 4 American deaths in Benghazi but say nothing about the 240+ deaths directly caused by Reagan's rediculous orders?

Do you think Reagan was right to then pull our military out of Lebanon, showing EVERYONE that the USA can be beaten by terror?
 
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Steve

Supporter
Jim you're almost as good at deflecting attention from the truth as the Obama administration. Dredging up incidents (with your usual one-sided liberal bent) from 30 years ago from a dead president is a bit irrelevant to the original post. Using the Bush analogy is also irrelevant as there's no evidence of any attempts to cover up.

The reality is that this administration has done an effective job covering up their tracks in the Benghazi debacle. The media has been quite complicit as well with their steadfast refusal to analyze this in greater detail and willingness to drop it. Woodward and Bernstein would never have been such lap dogs.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
The classy Republicans leaders chose to release this late on a Friday night, they do not want you to hear about the results of a very thourough multi year, multi million dollar "investigation".

Fox lied to you, Republican leaders lied to you. They spent two years spreading complete bullshit, slandering and accusing people, ruining careers, purly for political reasons.

Now after a complete investigation they find exactly what I told you they would find.....

Nothing but lies told for political reasons.



Shame on all of you!


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No stand down order or military missteps in Benghazi attack, GOP-controlled intel panel finds

<TIME datetime="2014-11-21T15:30-05:00" pubdate="" itemprop="datePublished">Published November 21, 2014</TIME>Associated Press

WASHINGTON – A two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee has found that the CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya.
The report alleges no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees.

Debunking a series of persistent allegations hinting at dark conspiracies surrounding the incident, the report concludes that there was no intelligence failure, no delay in sending a CIA rescue team, no missed opportunity for a military rescue, and no evidence the CIA was covertly shipping arms from Libya to Syria.
The report blames the Obama administration's inaccurate portrayal of the attack as having evolved from a protest on fragmentary and contradictory intelligence from the CIA. It finds no intent to mislead the American public.
 
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Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
Fox lied to you, Republican leaders lied to you...and you believed them......

Shame on all of you!

It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is...I did not have sexual relations with that woman...I never heard (Rev. Wright) say some of the things that have people upset...there will be no lobbyists in MY administration...marriage is between a man and a woman...I'm not going to make any excuses...I will cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term...Guantanamo will be closed in one year and the “criminals” tried in the US within 1 year...There will be no debt-limit increase unless it’s accompanied by serious spending cuts and real budget reforms...red line in the sand...If N. Korea fires that Intercontinental ballistic missile there will be serious consequences..if N Korea goes ahead with that nuclear bomb test there will be serious consequences...I am going to get tough with China and force them to float their currency...Fast and Furious was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration...transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency...we'll have to pass Obamacare before you can see what's in it...if you have a business, YOU didn't build that...businesses and corporations don't create jobs...Benghazi was caused by a video...there isn't a SMIDGEON of corruption in the IRS...the NSA isn't spying on the American people...you can keep your doctor...you can keep your plan...you'll SAVE an average of $2,500 a year in med premiums...you'll get better coverage for less money...EVERYBODY will be covered...Obamacare is NOT a tax...Obamacare won't add ONE DIME to the national debt...couples making <$250K (later <$200K) per year won't pay one extra DIME in taxes...I can't change/don't have the authority to change immigration laws on my own...with respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case, because there are laws on the books that Congress has passed...There are enough laws on the books by Congress that are very clear in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system that for me to simply through executive order ignore those congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as President... I can't do it by myself. We're going to have to change the laws in Congress...

Do I need to keep going, Jim (and you know I could), or do you 'get' the picture?
 
The difference between Benghazi and the events below are, the lack of action trying to save the Americans who were sodomized, tortured, dragged through the streets and killed after 7 hours of US notification that this was happening is inexcusable. And further trying to cover up the lack of action with three national Sunday morning broadcast by Susan Rice of some bogus anti Islam film that supposedly caused the riot. Obama doing nothing and going on a "fund raiser" in Las Vegas the next day and finally after 14 days saying it was an act of terror. Hillary Clinton was asked for help by Stevens in July, nothing was done. Obama on national TV saying that the perpetrators of the killings would be brought to justice. Hillary before Congress "what difference does it make". In the 7 hour of ineptitude we could have flown fighters from the US, not to mention bases in Europe.
"Is this about Benghazi AGAIN?" That has been said ever since the attack. I would just like to know why, instead of seeing the problem and acting on it, an elaborate BS story and cover up took place. And no we can't let that go. The events below and Benghazi are apples and oranges, and you as an American should be bothered without political concerns. And yes, if Bush or any other President had done this, I would feel the same way, it's not political, it's American.

Can't we let that go?

1. “January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN. (The Tribune)

2. “June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN. (BBC)

3. “October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of ‘Bali Bombings.’ No fatalities.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.



This one HuffPo got right, “No fatalities.”

4. “February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN. (Fox News)

Looks like Fox News peeped.

5. “May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.”

REALITY: NINE AMERICAN DEFENSE CONTRACTORS KILLED.

After numerous State Department warnings, and Saudi Arabia investigating al Qaeda for a potential planned attack, three defense compounds were assaulted with car bombs and armed attackers. Nine defense contractors were killed.

Bush immediately called the attack part of the “war on terror,” and two of the attackers that survived the raid were killed by Saudi police forces. You know, just like Benghazi. (CNN)

6. “July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN. (BBC)

7. “December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN. (Guardian)

8. “March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name ‘David Foy.’ This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)”

REALITY: ONE U.S. DIPLOMAT KILLED.

Finally, something that’s like Benghazi! Except that the Ambassador wasn’t missing, he was killed instantly. There wasn’t an 8-hour-long siege, an AWOL president and Secretary of State, or service personnel hung out to dry with no rescue attempt. It wasn’t a recent warzone, and there weren’t requests for additional security turned down. Oh, and no one falsely blamed a video for causing a non-existent protest. Except for those caveats, just like Benghazi.

9. “September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting ‘Allahu akbar’ storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN. (CNN)

10. “January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.

Again, “No fatalities.”

11. “March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN. (CNN)

12. “July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN. (Reuters)

13. “September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.”

REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.

“Attackers used vehicle bombs, rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons to mount a coordinated assault on the U.S. Embassy here Wednesday, leaving 10 guards and civilians dead outside the main gate but failing to breach the walled compound. No Americans were killed.” (Washington Post); (CSM)

It seems liberals have missed the point. Benghazi isn’t only outrageous because people died or even because those people were Americans, but because “stand down” orders were given, cries for help were ignored, blame was placed on a video, and those in charge lied and covered up an undeniable terrorist attack.


DEBUNKED: Huffington Post’s “13 Benghazis That Occurred On Bush’s Watch” – Universal Free Press
 
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Charlie Farley

Supporter
You know Al,
Less is more in my book, but on this occasion im wrong.
Thank you for your post.
To be honest, we this side of the Pond, read much on this Forum,
where you bitch Left v Right, and mostly we yawn..
But this is a bit different, Bigger than the crap of politics.
Some people here are even prepared to stick their head in
a toilet full of shit...if it means they defend their political
myopia.
Something went wrong BIG TIME in Libya.
It's not about politics, you are correct.
It's about caring for your own...
 

Pat

Supporter
"I think the American people, you know, they're going to want -- you know, that new car smell. You know, their own -- they want to drive something off the lot that doesn't have as much mileage as me," Obama told ABC News Chief anchor George Stephanopoulos in reference to the 2016 Presidential candidates.

Out of curiosity does Mrs. Clinton smell new and have low mileage??? Does she smell as new as Senator Elizabeth Warren?

Until the elections earlier this month, I thought Ms Clinton was unbeatable. But the candidates she stumped for failed, indicating her influence on the voters may be lacking.
She has displayed a propensity to create unforced errors and the Democrat party is apparently sticking with Ms Pelosi, Mr. Reid and Ms Wasserman-Schultz as their leadership team. Given the recent election results, interesting choices.
One thing you have to hand to Mr. Obama though, he's grown the Republican Party more than Ronald Regan.
 
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