Wanted; Historically correct Gulf driving lights.

[Ron R.]

Ok,

I've looked everywhere I can think to look. Can anyone tell me definitively if the correct round driving lights as used on the GULF liveried cars are the Marchal TP 27SP lights, or something else.

I'm not interested in something that looks similar...I would like an authorative answer as to what is correct?

Anyone know for SURE?

Thanks, Ron

 

[HILLY]

I have them noted as TP27SP 's but would also like confirmation of this spec.

 

[Ron R.]

Anyone??

 

[René]

I also read somewhere

genuine NOS Gulf spec Marchal driving lights

and somewhere else this...but no name>>

The original GT40's used aircraft landing lights, but they are very expensive at $500-600 a set.

edit: in this thread they talk about aircraft lights and found some? don't know if those are the one you seek.

http://www.gt40s.com/forum/garage-sale/13581-ge-aircraft-landing-lights.html

 

[René]

here are also some pit lamps?

They were also fitted as a modification to Ford GT40 Le Mans racer.

>>

aircraft lamps gt40 | eBay

in 3 colors but you must be a fan of a hole in the side...

 

[Ron R.]

here are also some pit lamps?

>>

aircraft lamps gt40 | eBay

in 3 colors but you must be a fan of a hole in the side...

Rene,

Not those...I already have one.

I'm looking for the ROUND driving lights mounted low, on the front of Gulf spec cars.

 

[Stephane Goria]

Hello Ron, hello everybody (sorry Ron, I missed your email).

Anyway, my belief was that the lights were TP27SP but after having seen on racingicons website a pic with part of the bucket, they clearly cannot be TP27SP.

What I know (but how this is sure?) is tha the lights were Marchal. So here are a few options according to the era :

Simca 1000 Marchal front lights (Marchal 128), they took the rear tail lights so they can have taken the front too from the same car ,
Very early driving lights from the citroen DS (hard to find as these are the version without the driving lights turning with the steering wheel),
And having seen a pic of the lemans bucket in a gt40 book, the renault Juva 4 bucket looks very similar, I need to investigate about the light size.

There are also a version for the citroen 2cv with the correct size and brand (marchal) but th emounting is not correct.

These are all the cars I know fitted with the round marchal 5.25 lights.

Greetings

Stephane

 

[Bart Dirkx]

Hello Ron, hello everybody (sorry Ron, I missed your email).

Anyway, my belief was that the lights were TP27SP but after having seen on racingicons website a pic with part of the bucket, they clearly cannot be TP27SP.

What I know (but how this is sure?) is tha the lights were Marchal. So here are a few options according to the era :

Simca 1000 Marchal front lights (Marchal 128), they took the rear tail lights so they can have taken the front too from the same car ,
Very early driving lights from the citroen DS (hard to find as these are the version without the driving lights turning with the steering wheel),
And having seen a pic of the lemans bucket in a gt40 book, the renault Juva 4 bucket looks very similar, I need to investigate about the light size.

There are also a version for the citroen 2cv with the correct size and brand (marchal) but th emounting is not correct.

These are all the cars I know fitted with the round marchal 5.25 lights.

Greetings

Stephane

Hi Stephane,

I found that the size is almost certain 5 3/4”. The TS27SP is this size. Also the Citroën DS lights, which can be Marchal and Cibié, are this size.
Where did you find the pic from which you concluded the light cannot be the TS27SP?
The best info I found was in the Hayes GT40 Owners’ Workshop Manual (which is actually a very nice historical overview of the GT40).
Unfortunately, from this photo I cannot tell what type or even brand.

 

[Lee Patterson]

The original headlight used on all the cars was the SEV Marchal part no. 612-22303. Marchal made several variants of the light but this is the part number of the correct one. It has a switchable bulb holder for both left and right hand traffic pattern. It uses an R2 45/40w non-halogen bulb. The glass lens is 230mm across and 120mm high, shaped convex (out). if you look very carefully in the lower left hand corner of the picture below, you will see the "21" designation. These lights have become very scarce. Rumor mill said someone paid $10K for a set for a recent concours restoration........

 

[Lee Patterson]

This is the driving light in 1075.

 

[Lee Patterson]

And headlight

 

[Morten]

Like these ones?

 

[Adrian Starling]

Hi, I have an original set with the matching mounting set as per the pictures attached. The lower 5.75” driving lights on the GT40 were also used on the following vehicles. All the best, Adrian

	5.75" SEV MARCHAL
	MAIN BEAM HEADLAMP
	GLASS REF E2 191 TP 27 SP
	PART NUMBER 61265403
	WIRED UP AND WORKING
	WITH PLASTIC MOUNTING BOWL (P/N
	61323002)
	THAT PROVIDES HEADLIGHT ADJUSTMENT
	FITS
	ALPINE A110 (1962-77)
	CITROEN DS/ID (1955-75)
	PORCHE 911/12 & PORCHE 901 (1964-73)
	MATRA 530 (1967-73)
	MATRA DJET (RENE BONNET) / JET (1962-68)
	SIMCA COUPE 1000/1200 S (1962-71)
	CG 1200 S (1968-72)
	CG 1300 (1972-74)