Rattlesnake...

So, you think you got big snakes in Tejas, huh? Check this here out. This here WAS an Oregon Rattler. It was a massive 1.5 FEET LONG. My weapon of choice was my $29.95 Daisy Buck BB Gun. Three shots to the skull. Now, what should I do with the massive 2 rattles?

Bagged this last week. It's my fourth in the last year...you would think the word would get out that I ain't kind to snakes.

How come no one wants to come visit our place?
 

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Seriously, is a 410 the best for these kind of things? What about some kind of air rifle/pellet gun? Any recommendations? No handguns please (because I shake with fear when aiming and don't want to hurt anyone or anything other than my prey). I do have a Remington 1100 12 gauge, but I don't want to tear up the house and yard (I use it only for landscaping).

Mike
 

Ron Earp

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Brian, I have a Bond Arms derringer that fires 410 or 45cal, it's called the snake slayer. Great little gun, I have it loaded with 410 triple 0 buck. Bond is located in Texas, very well made. Al
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I've got a couple of the American Derringer pieces myself. One is a 45/410 and the other is a dual .44 mag, both short barrels. I like Am Derringer pieces but it looks like the company has fallen on hard times since the late 90s. It is a privately owned company, by a woman is is definitely "odd". They had a nice write up on them in Forbes many years ago as a success story. These days I'm not sure. Haven't seen any of their guns on sale for a long time. The two I have I bought back in the early 90s.

The Bond guns look well done. I don't care for the trigger guard models but I see they have the classic Derringers available too. Might have to look into one of theirs if they'll do custom chamberings. Got a birthday coming up and I typically try and get a new pistol on my bday.:thumbsup:

Ron
 
If you don't already own one of the guns mentioned, why not try some 40 cal shotshells? They go for $13.99 at Cabela's (10 pack). They may or may not cycle your S & W, but so what? Stand back far enough to get a decent spread (which you probably are already doing) and...you may even have enough left over to eat :eek:)
 
Ron, do you hire King Kong to help you hold the .44 Mag derringer? Damn,the .45 is strong enough. I know the .44 is not the most powerful cartridge out there,Dirty Harry notwithstanding, but I remember a .44 Mag Ruger from my youth that bit pretty hard. Even a microweight .40 S&W has stiff recoil. I have once again (with reservation) become a gun owner as a result of an attempted break in a couple weeks ago. Both my daughter and myself were home and the lights and TV were on at the time. My dogs,fortunately,foiled the attempt. Best security system on the planet. This is a small quiet town but such areas are attracting the violent/drug oriented urban element to the suburbs as of late.
Mike,you might want to check with the manufacturer before you use the .40 shot shells in a polygonal rifling pistol or revolver. Plated shot might be ok but lead build up from shot after several rounds will foul this type of barrel quickly,with malfunction or worse as a result unless scrubbed out before using normal ammunition again. I was told to always use jacketed/plated rounds for these barrels. Normal rifling would be OK. Just F.Y.I.
 
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Ron Earp

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I've used those shot shells before in revolvers and they work great. No worrries about cycling the gun there. In fact, I think I passed a "test" using those shot shells.

I was dating a woman, now my wife, and went to visit her vacation home at the beach to meet one of her parents, her mother. I'd probably been in the house all of ten minutes and her mother walks up to me, hands me a colt Detective Special and tells me to go kill the snake on the North side of the house. I used to shoot competitively and like firearms, but I dislike the killing of animals and that includes snakes. I figure if you don't like the snake remove yourself from the snake's area and s/he won't bother you. Anyhow, I dispatched the poor snake with a 38 shot shell round and I suppose I was deemed ok.

The .44 in the Derringer with factory loads you can buy isn't too bad. Now some of my hand loads are HENIOUS in that thing and I've taken to not shooting it with anything but factory loads or 44 special. I don't have a lot of 44 special cartridges to handload though as I don't have any other guns in 44 special.

Actually, if you want to experience some recoil see if the Bond Derringer can take Ruger level .45 loads. You can load a .45 Colt round up to some serious levels with 300-310 grain bullets over a hefty amount of powder. I've got both .44 and .45 loads that will clock around 1400 fps out of an 8" Anaconda. They are stout. Out of a small S&W Mountain Gun or Derringer they hurt. And neither of these cartridges come close to cartridges like the .475 Linebaugh, .500 Wyoming, and others. I've been shopping for a Freedom Arms .500 Wyoming with a 4.5" barrel but just haven't pulled the trigger on one so to speak.

If you don't handload you can buy some pretty good rounds from The Grizzly Cartridge company. 45 offerings are here:

45 Colt+P 335 Grain WLNGC

335 grain lead at around 1150 fps is hefty. You'll never get that velocity out of the little Derringer but it'll have a big blast and lots of recoil. Be fun!
 

Brian Hamilton

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A .410 is probably the best gun to use for snakes in an area like I live. I used a Remington 870 12 gauge on this poor thing. LOL I'd like to get a .410 to use out here, plus it doesn't kick out of your hands when you fire it. LOL That 12 gauge when flying when we popped that snake. I'd love to get a Taurus Judge revolver for a snake gun to carry in my truck when going to property too. I don't know about that shot shell ammo for an auto. I may have to go get a box and try it out.

Andrew, when you come to Texas, give me a shout! I'm in the very center of Texas so getting anywhere is pretty easy. I'm 2.5 hrs from Austin, 2.5 hrs from Ft. Worth, and about 3.5 hrs from Dallas. Houston is about 4-5 hrs away. Anyway, let me know when you're here and we'll try to meet up if you have time.

Laters,

Brian
 
Conquest351; I'm in the very center of Texas so getting anywhere is pretty easy. I'm 2.5 hrs from Austin said:
Well,Brian it looks like you're just far enough away from everywhere..............was this your own choice or by court order?
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BTW - The Judge would be a good piece to carry around the property.
 
Looks like my ex-wife's attorney. (The reptile, that is)
That's one big snake,especially for a non-constrictor type. Did you find that one in a residential area?
 
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All this talk of guns and snakes makes me thankfull that I live in a way off place at the bottom of the world, You Americans, have Snakes, Bears, Courger's and god nows what else trying to kill you, the Aussies Have Snake's, Croc's and Spiders trying to kill them. Here in Godsown paradise we can go camping anywhere and there is not a single thing, other than your own supidity that can kill you in the bush and we are blessed with some of the most beautiful scenery on Earth as anybody who has seen "Lord of the Rings" will agree. We are also lucky that we can pretty much go where we like and camp where we like in any of our National parks. I'm not only a car nut but also an avid 4x4 guy and spend at least 1 weekend with my 2 girls and Mates in the bush every time I'm home. I'm Lucky to live in this Place we call "Aoteoroa" (New Zealand) and don't believe what those Aussies say about kiwis and sheep because they invented Velcrow Gloves. Cheers Leonmac
 

Brian Hamilton

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We have big ones in Georgia.
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DUDE!! That thing is HUGE!!! I'd for sure sh*t myself if I pulled that thing out of my barn. LOL How many rattles are on that bad boy? He's a 6 footer eh? Dayumn, that's a big ass snake.
 
The snake deal is some serious s&#%!
We live in an area that has a lot of snakes but I have never seen any in my back yard (maybe because of artificial grass) and as a result have been lax on periodicaly checking things out.
Our 2 mini Dachsunds love the back yard and have been terrorizing lizards, rabbits and squirrels out there for a long time.
Last week both were bitten by a rattlesnake and Doreen barely got them to the vet in time. The younger one, Annie, nearly died on the way in, Doreen kept her going by holding out her head out the window and shaking her and talking to her.
She was halfway there before she realized that Roxy had been bitten also!
We had given them Rattle snake vaccine. shots and I think that gave them enough time to get to the Animal Hospital.
They only weigh 8 and 9 pounds and a snake bite can be deadly.
They were saved but at considerable cost and we won't be going to Raod America but we still have the hounds.
We have not found the snake but have filled in holes, looked in the bushes and no longer let the dogs have the run of the place.
Dave
 
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