B.O. Supports Mosque near ground zero.
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Jim,
I do watch Fox, but also CNN, NBC, CBS, etc.
I attempt to get ALL viewpoints and make up my own mind. IMO, all of them have some bias one way or another. I tend to be conservative as well as some others here. I refrain from posting on a couple of threads because there are too many childish personal attacks based upon personal convictions by the posters. That won't change.
I do watch Fox, but also CNN, NBC, CBS, etc.
I attempt to get ALL viewpoints and make up my own mind. IMO, all of them have some bias one way or another. I tend to be conservative as well as some others here. I refrain from posting on a couple of threads because there are too many childish personal attacks based upon personal convictions by the posters. That won't change.
I have been told that I posted this in the wrong place, so I have moved it over here.
This is a link to the Daly Show, talking about the Fox controversy, although it is comody, stay until the end, there is a good discussion covering both sides of the issue.
Well, that explains it.....they are BOTH stupid AND evil. IMHO, anyone who owns a large portion of a major political op-ed cable show and wants their photo taken with Gee-DUB is just plain STUPID (as is Gee-DUB!!), and only someone smart enough to know that they need to hide the money trail would "fail to mention" the connection....thereby making them EVIL.
So, it's not one or the other, it's both?????
Cheers from Doug!
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
So Doug, if fox informertial is stupid, evil, owned by the Soudis and have folks like Damian and Al carring the torch for them, that could be scarry, we should all contact the FCC and see if we can get their licence pulled before they do some real damage!
Thanks for the heads up, I'll be downstairs digging a shelter.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll be downstairs digging a shelter.
Jim, your posts might have a little more credibility if they weren't riddled with spelling errors.
Some of you kill me where exactly was there any sign, hint, or suspicion of the man hiding anything? Now working off of some of you peoples paranoia; than the U.S. govt is just as much to blame as the man in question since it is obvious that they knew about this the whole time. Now taking it even further into psycho land than we all as Americans are corrupt and EVIL (yes even you JIM) for allowing this to go on IN FRONT OF OUR FACES. Funny that NOT ONE of you supposed self righteous people said a word about the man UNTIL FOX started to dog him public-ally (or should I say that your counterpart picked up on what FOX WAS ALREADY REPORTING) (funny how that worked out). Seems that this forum has a bunch of water cooler bit(H$ with nothing better to do. I could stomach the complaints if you posers had been complaining the whole time about this or if ANY OF YOU had actually brought ANY of this to light before it was blasted EVERYWHERE but alas NOT ONE OF YOU has done ANYTHING except cry on here and post up 1/2 truths and a bunch or preposterous innuendo's. Man go play with your cars or something because it is obvious that reality has long since passed some of you!!!!!!!
Now as a side not I am not defending the man but rather I am defending FOX and co. for taking his money. Remember guys that in history EVERY COUNTRY has had to make beds with some not so nice people to gain information / power / control over a situation. Remember the devil you know is better than the one you don't!!!! It is ludicrous to think otherwise. I know in lala land where we all ride unicorns and drink wine laced with fairy dust these situations don't exist (except in some members minds) but reality is a very different and harsh place my brethren. Man how did some of you ever become successful or was it the old fashioned way (which would explain A LOT) ... inheritance.
I eagerly await Jims next attempt at deflection!!!
Now as a side not I am not defending the man but rather I am defending FOX and co. for taking his money. Remember guys that in history EVERY COUNTRY has had to make beds with some not so nice people to gain information / power / control over a situation. Remember the devil you know is better than the one you don't!!!! It is ludicrous to think otherwise. I know in lala land where we all ride unicorns and drink wine laced with fairy dust these situations don't exist (except in some members minds) but reality is a very different and harsh place my brethren. Man how did some of you ever become successful or was it the old fashioned way (which would explain A LOT) ... inheritance.
I eagerly await Jims next attempt at deflection!!!
So Doug, if fox informertial is stupid, evil, owned by the Soudis and have folks like Damian and Al carring the torch for them, that could be scarry, we should all contact the FCC and see if we can get their licence pulled before they do some real damage!
Thanks for the heads up, I'll be downstairs digging a shelter.
Jim, Get off this arab support BS, I just said that I watch all of the news. Misdirection seems to be the way of the liberals. If things are not going your way, throw in some insults and misdirection. You haven't said one constructive thing for or against the mosque. You just keep babbling about the 7% owner of FNN, what a bad president Bush and all the former Republicans were. If we had to depend on liberals, you would be building a shelter.
Al you notice how he NEVER addresses anything that contradicts the ridiculous innuendos (since we keep hitting him with facts and he has NONE). Come on Jim I told you that I will continue to to take a proverbial dump on you until you stop with the B.S. or you come at me with something sold backed in fact (oh wait you can't).
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I find that ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN are biased as well, mostly through omission. A lot of newsworthy items that would look bad for the BO administration are just not reported, or are reported with a slant. Most of the time you will find the items on European news, Fox, and occasionally CNN.
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Damian, you keep talking about facts, lets see them, because as far as I can see I'm the only one who uses them.
I would love to talk FACTS, bring them on!
I would love to have a discussion about facts. You look back through these threads see if anyone on the concervative side uses facts (correct ones anyway).
As far as this fox stuff goes I did not know untill yesterday that a Soudi Prince was the second largest owner of fox, did you?
Why do you suppose fox is hiding the name of the person funding the Community Center, could it be because is is a part owner of fox?
Al you keep talking about this 7% number, and me, ok Al, here is you big chance. SHOW US WERE I SAID 7%!!! The only thing I have said on the subject is that he is the #2 owner behind Murdock.
I would love to talk FACTS, bring them on!
I would love to have a discussion about facts. You look back through these threads see if anyone on the concervative side uses facts (correct ones anyway).
As far as this fox stuff goes I did not know untill yesterday that a Soudi Prince was the second largest owner of fox, did you?
Why do you suppose fox is hiding the name of the person funding the Community Center, could it be because is is a part owner of fox?
Al you keep talking about this 7% number, and me, ok Al, here is you big chance. SHOW US WERE I SAID 7%!!! The only thing I have said on the subject is that he is the #2 owner behind Murdock.
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You bonehead! The Saudi is a 7% owner of FNN. What kind of drugs are you doing?
It may seem so, Al, but I worked in the broadcast journalism field and I know how things work. Everyone is competing with everyone else for that "scoop", the news story of the day that draws the greatest viewer ratings. However, responsible journalism requires that stories go through their own sort of "vetting" process, which requires independent verification as well as scrutiny regarding the source. If anything doesn't pass the smell test, it doesn't go on air.
Those networks you mentioned are just being more selective than Fox Op-Ed, and in addition it is not only news features in the political arena that don't make the "cut", so to speak....it just seems so to you b/c of your intense anti-BO orientation. I can assure you stories in the Sports field are often dropped for the same reasons as are stories in the political field.
This all goes on behind the scenes, reporters calling frantically to reliable sources, hoping for independent verification of an interesting/juicy story. After all, we are a society in which sensationalism draws attention, the networks all know it, so to me it just means the other networks you mentioned must have a little more sensitive noses than does Fox Op-Ed, but then Fox does seem to have a vested interest in anything which would cast the Bee-OH administration in a bad light, so they might not sniff around as much before they put it on the air.
In the end, though, it is all about veracity, and it is a well-recognized fact that Fox's veracity has been significantly damaged by this vendetta they have mounted. They have high viewership ratings for the same reason that WWW does, not that the content is more believable (you don't really think those WWW matches aren't fixed, do you :idea: ), just that their content seems to make it over the "excitement" threshold that our society, with it's ever-increasing desire for thrills, seems to crave.
From what I've seen, it's more entertanment (and who wouldn't be entertained by some of the antics on Fox Op-Ed?) than true journalism, and in the journalistic circles I frequent (which, probably to your surprise, are much more conservative than liberal) the difference is not only noticable but also lamented.
Cheers from Doug!
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Pat
Supporter
Al, +1
As I mentioned earlier, I'm trying to look at things through a liberal lens (I've also stopped wearing underwear on even numbered days). I've heard how the Jacobins want facts as to media bias. Well...try this:
On December 28, 2006, John Edwards officially announced his candidacy for President in the 2008 election from the yard of a home in New Orleans that was being rebuilt after Hurricane Katrina destroyed it. Early national polls had Edwards placing third among the Democratic field beginning in January 2007, behind Senator Hillary Clinton and Senator Barack Obama. On January 3, 2008, in the Iowa caucuses, the first contest of the nomination process, Edwards placed second with 29.75 percent of the vote to Obama (37.58 percent), with Clinton coming in third with 29.47 percent of the vote. Given the change in voter sentiment, Edwards was clearly taking votes away from Ms. Clinton.
On October 10, 2007, The National Enquirer, an American supermarket tabloid newspaper, published an article claiming that Edwards had engaged in an extramarital affair with an unnamed female campaign worker. Which his campaign (at the time) denied. The claims received little attention in the mainstream press. CBS News journalist Bob Schieffer , asked about the allegations on Imus in the Morning, stated "I believe that's a story that we will be avoiding, because it appears to me that there's absolutely nothing to it...This seems to be just sort of a staple of modern campaigns, that you got through at least one love child which turns out not to be a love child. And I think we can all do better than this one." Blogosphere claims of a media "blackout" extended to the online reference site Wikipedia and its biographical article on Edwards.
Clearly the event was being avoided and in many cases dismissed outright by the media. (except Fox news on the cable side). So it beggs the question, had the mainstream media not given Edwards (by far the candide running farthest to the left) a pass on his infidelity and his support had come at the expense of Hillary, she could have clearly dominated the Iowa Cacaus as she won, New Hampshire, Michigan, Nevada and Florida before Mr. Obama could have gotten traction in the deep south given the vaccume created by Edwards. So it would applear that Mr. Obama was able to steal the nomination because the media would not out Edwards before he had the chance to pull Hillary’s support. So they may very well cost the best opportunity for a woman to become Ms. Presdent. Speculation as to the mainstream media’s motivations for holding the story range for their protection of by far the most liberal candiate to outright misogyny. Make up your own mind…
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Well guys, it apparent that I have been having a war of words with an unarmed foe,
they continually say they have facts that will show how wrong, how stupid, and uninformed I am.
Just wait, we'll show you..........................
You say my facts are wrong, that I lie, that I do not know what I'm talking about.
I have continually asked you to prove it, show me were I'm wrong.....................you say nothing just call me names.
I ask you simple straight forward questions.......................... you say nothing.
We've been waiting and waiting and we are still waiting.
Are all consevative as lame as you, or are you guys the best there is?
You guys got no game. You can call people names, you can tell me to go away, but in the end you got nothing, a big fat nothing!
Damian in the end 10 to 1 odds do appear to be unfair.
they continually say they have facts that will show how wrong, how stupid, and uninformed I am.
Just wait, we'll show you..........................
You say my facts are wrong, that I lie, that I do not know what I'm talking about.
I have continually asked you to prove it, show me were I'm wrong.....................you say nothing just call me names.
I ask you simple straight forward questions.......................... you say nothing.
We've been waiting and waiting and we are still waiting.
Are all consevative as lame as you, or are you guys the best there is?
You guys got no game. You can call people names, you can tell me to go away, but in the end you got nothing, a big fat nothing!
Damian in the end 10 to 1 odds do appear to be unfair.
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