Is this the Islam some of you seem to love?

[David Morton]

I am referring to certain Americans.







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Anjem Choudary says Lee Rigby 'will burn in hellfire because he was not a Muslim' in vile rant as he says his killers should be considered as martyrs

• Radical preacher still not arrested despite his attempts to stir up hatred
• Anjem Choudary filmed saying that Lee Rigby deserves no sympathy
  
• Rubbishes Help for Heroes and says British soldiers kill Afghan children
  
• Calls murder suspect Michael Adebolajo a 'nice man'
  

By Martin Robinson
PUBLISHED: 09:17, 4 June 2013 | UPDATED: 09:30, 4 June 2013

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Murdered soldier Lee Rigby will 'burn in hellfire' and those who killed him should be considered martyrs, hate preacher Anjem Choudary has said in a poisonous rant on film.
The extremist maintains that despite being executed in barbaric circumstances the 25 year old father of one deserves no sympathy because he is a 'non-Muslim'.

It is yet another vile outburst by Choudary, who insists on using Drummer Rigby's murder to stir up hatred, but police will still not arrest him.

Rally: A man identified as Woolwich suspect Michael Adebolajo (circled) pictured at a demonstration in Paddington Green, London, in 2007 with Anjem Choudary - who today called him a 'nice man' in a video rant

'Martyrs': The Hate Preacher said that Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale will go to 'Paradise'

Tragic: Drummer Lee Rigby died in the street as he walked back to his barracks in Woolwich


A video uncovered by The Sun, shows the preacher, who claims £25,000 a year in benefits, saying that the people who murdered Lee Rigby will go to 'Paradise', and called one of the suspects, Michael Adebolajo, 28, a 'nice man'.
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Message: 'I think you need to blame the people who are inciting and who are radicalising these youths, which is really the British government,' Anjem Choudary said

Filmed in an office near his mosque in north-east London, he would not denounce the soldier's death.
'So as an adult non-Muslim, whether he is part of the Army or not part of the Army, if he dies in a state of disbelief then he is going to go to the hellfire. That’s what I believe so I’m not going to feel sorry for non-Muslims.'
Choudary went on that the British Government is to blame for Lee Rigby's death, which is a 'drop in the ocean'.
'I think you need to blame the people who are inciting and who are radicalising these youths, which is really the British government.

'You need to take into account the hundreds of thousands of incidents of people slaughtered, of weddings bombed, of Muslims tortured, of innocent people kept in prison for over ten years.'
Yesterday the two men accused of killing Lee Rigby Two men made separate appearances in court charged with his murder.

Michael Adebolajo, 28, of Romford, Essex, appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court, while Michael Adebowale, 22, appeared at the Old Bailey.

In court: Raising his arm into a Usain Bolt pose, Michael Adebolajo kisses a copy of the Koran with his eyes closed

Exchange: Court artist sketch by Elizabeth Cook of a member of the public gallery blowing kisses at Michael Adebolajo in the dock at Westminster Magistrates' Court

He also attacked the charity Help for Heroes, which helps care for injured British soldiers, saying they cannot he heroes because they 'shoot children in Afghanistan'.
Choudary has continually refused to condemn the killers of Lee Rigby, the British drummer crushed by a vehicle and then hacked to death with machetes.
He even suggested that ‘one man killed in a street’ was hardly proper vengeance for those killed by ‘Britain and the U.S.' in wars overseas.







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[David Morton]

From the Daily Mail today. It makes me so sad it has come to this.
Butchered for being Christian: Horrific video shows Syrian Catholic priest being 'beheaded by jihadist rebels in front of baying mob'

 

[craig]

The American "defenders of evil" that you speak of are probably to weak to watch the allah loving video you posted........
But trust me David many of us do realize the threat we all face.

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

I was under the belief that the anti discrimination laws in the U.K. Were very strict and strongly policed. The failure to arrest Choudary for his vile outpourings seems to put the lie to that.
Or is it as I suspect the anti racist and discrimination laws only apply to white Christians?

 

[Larry L.]

Or is it as I suspect the anti racist and discrimination laws only apply to white Christians?

'Rhetorical question, I take it...

 

[Jeff Young]

Is this the Christianity some of you seem to love?

I"m speaking of certain board members here.

Iraq: The unseen war - Salon.com

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

Maybe you posted the wrong link Jeff those are images of the war against Iraq from the Bush era.
I don't see any Christian priests or Clerics shouting that all Muslims will burn in hell because they are Muslim. Neither do I see the Priests inciting their followers to a holy war against Muslims.

 

[Jeff Young]

I see pictures of many dead Muslim civilians killed as an afterthought of a war instigated primarily by Christians.

And I am frankly dead tired of Morton posting things and suggesting that only Muslims commit atrocities in the world. It's sad. Really sad.

 

[craig]

I see pictures of many dead Muslim civilians killed as an afterthought of a war instigated primarily by Christians.

And I am frankly dead tired of Morton posting things and suggesting that only Muslims commit atrocities in the world. It's sad. Really sad.

Don't be so sad Jeff, I think you're really making some brilliant and effective counter punches against Morton.......or not

 

[Steve]

The impetus behind Desert Storm and the Iraq war had nothing to do with Christianity and I think you know that Jeff. Your statement is a non-sequiter. Yes, people who are christians commit atrocities. Even your beloved Barack Obama (a christian) authorizes drone strikes that kill civilians and US citizens. Still, atrocities performed in the name of Christianity are rare. Certainly rare relative to atrocities in the name of Islam.

 

[Jeff Young]

And, massive fail by the jammin' man.

"God told me to invade Iraq." - President Bush.

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' | World news | The Guardian

 

[John Milmont]

And, massive fail by the jammin' man.

"God told me to invade Iraq." - President Bush.

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' | World news | The Guardian

This link needs to go in the thread about conspiracy theories.

BTW Jeff, you did read the article you posted right? They are quoting a man named Nabil Shaath, not Bush...

Are you sure hes not telling you what you want to hear?

 

[Jeff Young]

I sure did and there are about 10-15 corroborating sources out there on the web.

Denial doesn't become you. And yes, even Muslims can tell the truth. Despite the beliefs of those here to the contrary.

 

[John Milmont]

Jeff, tell me about 'Taqiyya' and 'Kitman' and show me where those evil Christians have an equivalent.

 

[Mark]

I believe that probably 80% of the worlds' entire population are, in essence, good, regardless of faith, colour, or political slant.

I also believe that even those who make up that 80% often do things they know are not entirely decent, from time to time.

When the shit hits the fan, any one of those 80% would hurt another toprotect their own kin.

I also believe the media and governments across the world, (1st or 3rd), stir the pot and create more hatred than any portion of the population.

We all fall into the trap even by simply arguing the point of who is worse, more harmful, or more radical.

People are weak and in the main, sheep. So I am at least partially pleased that we here, have the balls to discuss and disagree. Lets just try to disagree without hate.

 

[Steve]

And, massive fail by the jammin' man.

"God told me to invade Iraq." - President Bush.

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' | World news | The Guardian

:stunned:

Even if true (and assuming both houses of congress who signed off on the invasion did so for similar reasons), yet another non-sequiter.

Trying to eliminate tyranny, however misguided, isn't the same as cutting off the head of an innocent Catholic priest just because he's christian.

Recommend working on reading comprehension.....

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

Jeff, I have asked this before and didn't get an answer, are you a Muslim?
I'm just trying to get a handle on why you appear to support them.

 

[Bob Fechter]

Jeff, I have asked this before and didn't get an answer, are you a Muslim?
I'm just trying to get a handle on why you appear to support them.

He'll support anything "angry old white guys" don't like.

 

[David Morton]

From the Daily Mirror and Fox News:

Al-Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki 'spent thousands on prostitutes as he traveled the U.S. spreading his message of radical Islam'


By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 19:40, 2 July 2013 | UPDATED: 22:03, 2 July 2013

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The radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki spent thousands of dollars on prostitutes while he traveled the country preaching fundamentalist Islam, it had been revealed.

The FBI, which was tracking al-Awlaki's movements, watched as he met at least seven times with prostitutes in the Washington D.C. area between November 2001 and February 2002, according to newly leaked documents.

The agency estimated he spent $2,300 on hookers in Washington alone. He is also believed to have purchased the services of prostitutes when he traveled to Florida.

Indiscretions: The FBI watched as Anwar al-Awlaki bought sex seven times from prostitutes in the Washington DC area. Agents estimate he spent $2,300 in a few short months


Fox News reports that FBI documents obtained by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch show agents tracked al-Awlaki's history with escorts after the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.
Al-Awlaki was killed in a drone airstrike in Yemen in September 2011 after he was added to a CIA 'kill list.'
U.S. authorities say he encouraged alleged Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan and helped plan the failed underwear bombing attack aboard a Detroit-bound airliner by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in 2009.



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His name was linked to 'dozens' of terrorist plots and was called a 'key recruiter' for al-Qaeda in Yemen.
The FBI interviewed several of the women he paid for sex - many of whom were shocked to see the bearded cleric patronize them.

One last fling: 9-11 hijacker Marwan Al-Shehhi reportedly paid $20 for a lap dance shortly before the attacks


One hooker told FBI agents 'she looked through the "peep" hole ... and thought to herself that he looked like Osama bin Laden,' according to Fox.

Al-Awlaki reportedly paid $400 to have sex with the woman. She described him as 'very polite.'
The encounter came at a Washington hotel on Feburary 4, 2002 - one day before he was invited to give a presentation at the Pentagon. Al-Awlaki was recruited by the government speak about outreach to moderate Muslims, it was revealed in 2010.

Another prostitute told the FBI that al-Awlaki paid her $300 to watch as 'as she engaged in erotic behavior and stimulated herself' in December 2001.

They met again for the same activity in January 2002.
Despite al-Awlaki's fundamentalist religious teachings, it appears the married father of five had a history of paying for sex.

He was arrested in 1996 and 1997 for soliciting prostitutes in San Diego. He pleaded guilty and paid a fine.

Al-Awlaki's predilection for prostitutes recalls reports that several 9-11 hijackers traveled to Las Vegas and bought lap dances at strip clubs before the September 11 attacks.












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[Pete McCluskey.]

Shame on you David, you know you cannot believe anything reported by that radical right wing Fox news, I'm sure the nice Muslim man was just trying to show those poor fallen women the error of their ways and convert them to Islam...:stunned:
At least hypocrisy is alive and well, how did he get a visa to travel in the U.S. anyway? I would have thought border security would have sent him straight to Guantanamo.
OOps I just realised he is an American citizen, that explains the visa, he should still be sent to Guantanamo.