Ebay auction to bid on premium over list for 2005 Ford GT - $35,400 and counting. Good luck!
Ford GT - ebay auction
Rob
Ford GT - ebay auction
Rob
2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for the right to buy
- Thread starter RobBeddington
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IMHO Fraud.
> > Sir, how do I know this is a legitimate car. Is there a number for the
> dealer?
> > Steve
his response:
> Steve,
>
> Well I guess you can see by my feedback that I've had nothing but
positives,
> including prior car sales. I am in partnership with others and one of my
> partners is handling the dealership relations. He was to be in contact
with
> the dealership today to get some more information about whether or not we
> can get the car with the MSO as opposed to having to license it first
before
> turning it over. When I talk to him I'll ask him if he has any paperwork
or
> anything I can pass along. As I told someone previously, if you don't
think
> it is legit then don't bid. The winning bidder will have all of the
> necessary information turned over to him or her and hopefully they'll
leave
> us some positive feedback as well. As you can imagine we are in a tough
> spot as well since we have two cars coming we have to make an educated
guess
> as to what a spot in line is worth vs. what simply reselling the car
> ourselves is worth, for example some Ferraris resell for quite a bit more
> than MSRP, and of course we have to be concerned with whether or not the
> winning bidder can actually come up with the funds to buy the car. Feel
> free to stay in touch and I will pass on information as it is provided to
> me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
Then I asked him:
Thanks Ken for your response. Can I ask one more thing and that is what
dealership you are with?
Or what dealer your partner is working with.
Thanks for holding my hand but this is a lot of money.
I am not doubting you but I am just crossing my T's and doting my i's.
Steve
His response:
No response yet.
> dealer?
> > Steve
his response:
> Steve,
>
> Well I guess you can see by my feedback that I've had nothing but
positives,
> including prior car sales. I am in partnership with others and one of my
> partners is handling the dealership relations. He was to be in contact
with
> the dealership today to get some more information about whether or not we
> can get the car with the MSO as opposed to having to license it first
before
> turning it over. When I talk to him I'll ask him if he has any paperwork
or
> anything I can pass along. As I told someone previously, if you don't
think
> it is legit then don't bid. The winning bidder will have all of the
> necessary information turned over to him or her and hopefully they'll
leave
> us some positive feedback as well. As you can imagine we are in a tough
> spot as well since we have two cars coming we have to make an educated
guess
> as to what a spot in line is worth vs. what simply reselling the car
> ourselves is worth, for example some Ferraris resell for quite a bit more
> than MSRP, and of course we have to be concerned with whether or not the
> winning bidder can actually come up with the funds to buy the car. Feel
> free to stay in touch and I will pass on information as it is provided to
> me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
Then I asked him:
Thanks Ken for your response. Can I ask one more thing and that is what
dealership you are with?
Or what dealer your partner is working with.
Thanks for holding my hand but this is a lot of money.
I am not doubting you but I am just crossing my T's and doting my i's.
Steve
His response:
No response yet.
"Stupid is as stupid does...."
To my understanding NO Ford dealer will get more than one the first year. The speculators and weasels are trying hard to hook the suckers on this one. Best one was the eBay auction for the car in Canada, fish paid for a delivery spot for a car from a dealer that may not even get a car!
Yes, the "seller" will not have a VIN yet, but a signed document from the dealer would go a long way towards making it legit.
BTW, the official "JOB 1" date at Wixom Assembly where the cars will be built, is April 29. And has anyone else noticed that Saleen who were to be responsible for the "assembly" are now nowhere to be seen or involved in the GT? I never understood what they allegedly brought to this project: they have no experiance in assembly of this type of car, they have only built a few S7s for the street, the race cars are built at Ray Mallocks in the UK.
Rick /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
To my understanding NO Ford dealer will get more than one the first year. The speculators and weasels are trying hard to hook the suckers on this one. Best one was the eBay auction for the car in Canada, fish paid for a delivery spot for a car from a dealer that may not even get a car!
Yes, the "seller" will not have a VIN yet, but a signed document from the dealer would go a long way towards making it legit.
BTW, the official "JOB 1" date at Wixom Assembly where the cars will be built, is April 29. And has anyone else noticed that Saleen who were to be responsible for the "assembly" are now nowhere to be seen or involved in the GT? I never understood what they allegedly brought to this project: they have no experiance in assembly of this type of car, they have only built a few S7s for the street, the race cars are built at Ray Mallocks in the UK.
Rick /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Re: 2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for the right to b
Just a comment - take it for what it's worth -
Remember when the Miatas first came out? They
got marked up so high because Mazda said
"limited run". How many people got suckered
in? How much does a 1st year Miata sell for now?
Less than original sticker, and way less than
the marked up cost.
I'm not saying Ford will ever move the GT into
mass production like the Miata (though it's odd
that Ford has a huge interest in Mazda ...), but
paying $35K US for the right to buy a $140K US car
that the dealer may or may not get ... not good.
And, his response "As I told someone previously,
if you don't think it is legit then don't bid."
is dicey at best. If he wants to remain legit, he
needs to provide proof. Unfortunately, there are
suckers born every minute ...
Ian
Just a comment - take it for what it's worth -
Remember when the Miatas first came out? They
got marked up so high because Mazda said
"limited run". How many people got suckered
in? How much does a 1st year Miata sell for now?
Less than original sticker, and way less than
the marked up cost.
I'm not saying Ford will ever move the GT into
mass production like the Miata (though it's odd
that Ford has a huge interest in Mazda ...), but
paying $35K US for the right to buy a $140K US car
that the dealer may or may not get ... not good.
And, his response "As I told someone previously,
if you don't think it is legit then don't bid."
is dicey at best. If he wants to remain legit, he
needs to provide proof. Unfortunately, there are
suckers born every minute ...
Ian
Re: 2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for the right to b
I stopped into my local Ford dealer and asked about the new GT. A couple of the salesman said they had not heard anything so far from Ford about their allocation of any cars yet. They figured they would probably get only one.
They told me that 8 customers had already been in and all said they wanted to buy it. I asked who would be the one lucky customer and they said they would probably just draw
a name out of a hat. Now that is a Minnesota nice. As naive as I might be but I just don't see a reputable dealer here price gauging their customers for whatever they can get out of them. Maybe an auction? Most likely the owner of the dealership will buy it and that will be that.
Steve /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I stopped into my local Ford dealer and asked about the new GT. A couple of the salesman said they had not heard anything so far from Ford about their allocation of any cars yet. They figured they would probably get only one.
They told me that 8 customers had already been in and all said they wanted to buy it. I asked who would be the one lucky customer and they said they would probably just draw
a name out of a hat. Now that is a Minnesota nice. As naive as I might be but I just don't see a reputable dealer here price gauging their customers for whatever they can get out of them. Maybe an auction? Most likely the owner of the dealership will buy it and that will be that.
Steve /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Re: 2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for the right to b
I fell for the same "limited" production run that the 2003 Mach 1 was suppose to be. The rumors from the company were saying how only 6500 were going to be made and for one year only since the 2005 Mustang was coming out.
Well, at least I only paid MSRP unlike some who paid up to $5000 over MSRP.
6 months later...Ford was giving the rebates and selling them for $5000 under MSRP and had produced over 10000 models for 2003 alone! Not only that but they are making 2004 models too.
I learned my lesson on new cars...at least mine wasn't as expensive of a lesson as some.
I fell for the same "limited" production run that the 2003 Mach 1 was suppose to be. The rumors from the company were saying how only 6500 were going to be made and for one year only since the 2005 Mustang was coming out.
Well, at least I only paid MSRP unlike some who paid up to $5000 over MSRP.
6 months later...Ford was giving the rebates and selling them for $5000 under MSRP and had produced over 10000 models for 2003 alone! Not only that but they are making 2004 models too.
I learned my lesson on new cars...at least mine wasn't as expensive of a lesson as some.
Re: 2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for right to buy
Surprise, surprise, it looks like the seller has done the decent thing and closed the auction off early, cancelling all bids. The following was added to the ebay description:
<< UPDATE - Unfortunately we have not yet received any paperwork from the Ford dealer we are working with regarding this car. We have only the dealership's word that we will be able to get the car at this time. I know this will probably keep many from bidding on this car, but when we last spoke to the dealer we were confirmed to get one. We are hesitant to sell a spot in line without confirming paperwork because we have an unblemished record. If the dealer cannot produce the paperwork by the last day of the auction we will cancel the auction and re-list once we receive the paperwork from the dealer as we are not about to sell a spot in line for this kind of money based solely on the word of the dealer without supporting paperwork. We regret that this is currently the case, but thought it only fair to provide an immediate update based on the information at hand. We will update this description again if the paperwork comes through before auction close.
If we are forced to cancel this auction due to lack of paperwork at this time, please look for another auction in the future at which time you can be assured that we have the paperwork in hand. Our apologies if we jumped the gun here, but we have assurances from the dealer that it is coming, it just hasn't arrived as of yet.
Thank you for your patience and understanding. >>
Auction since cancelled.
Cheers
Rob
Surprise, surprise, it looks like the seller has done the decent thing and closed the auction off early, cancelling all bids. The following was added to the ebay description:
<< UPDATE - Unfortunately we have not yet received any paperwork from the Ford dealer we are working with regarding this car. We have only the dealership's word that we will be able to get the car at this time. I know this will probably keep many from bidding on this car, but when we last spoke to the dealer we were confirmed to get one. We are hesitant to sell a spot in line without confirming paperwork because we have an unblemished record. If the dealer cannot produce the paperwork by the last day of the auction we will cancel the auction and re-list once we receive the paperwork from the dealer as we are not about to sell a spot in line for this kind of money based solely on the word of the dealer without supporting paperwork. We regret that this is currently the case, but thought it only fair to provide an immediate update based on the information at hand. We will update this description again if the paperwork comes through before auction close.
If we are forced to cancel this auction due to lack of paperwork at this time, please look for another auction in the future at which time you can be assured that we have the paperwork in hand. Our apologies if we jumped the gun here, but we have assurances from the dealer that it is coming, it just hasn't arrived as of yet.
Thank you for your patience and understanding. >>
Auction since cancelled.
Cheers
Rob
Re: 2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for right to buy
Rob,
not only did he not have paper work but he wrote me and said he had two cars.
"As you can imagine we are in a tough
> spot as well since we have two cars coming we have to make an educated
guess
> as to what a spot in line is worth vs. what simply reselling the car
> ourselves is worth, for example some Ferraris resell for quite a bit more
> than MSRP, and of course we have to be concerned with whether or not the
> winning bidder can actually come up with the funds to buy the car".
Buyer beware.
Always a good policy.
Do your homework.
Steve
Rob,
not only did he not have paper work but he wrote me and said he had two cars.
"As you can imagine we are in a tough
> spot as well since we have two cars coming we have to make an educated
guess
> as to what a spot in line is worth vs. what simply reselling the car
> ourselves is worth, for example some Ferraris resell for quite a bit more
> than MSRP, and of course we have to be concerned with whether or not the
> winning bidder can actually come up with the funds to buy the car".
Buyer beware.
Always a good policy.
Do your homework.
Steve
Re: 2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for right to buy
Similar BS scenarios happen with Chevy dealers all the time when they are trying to sell new Corvettes.
Only a fool would pay a deposit up front to get in line. Many of the Chevy dealers won't receive the allotment they hope for. Some get so little, they have no problem selling at MSRP for their area. However, many 'big' Chevy delears get hundreds of new Corvettes per year and will sell them thousands below MSRP.
Similar BS scenarios happen with Chevy dealers all the time when they are trying to sell new Corvettes.
Only a fool would pay a deposit up front to get in line. Many of the Chevy dealers won't receive the allotment they hope for. Some get so little, they have no problem selling at MSRP for their area. However, many 'big' Chevy delears get hundreds of new Corvettes per year and will sell them thousands below MSRP.
Re: 2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for the right to b
that is the question, how do we sell these cars. And being a 21 year veteran of Minneapolis, I would agree with you on the drawing of the name. We have been given our allotment. We are getting ready to hold meetings to figure out what to do. One of our two (yes 2) is going to the owner of the dealership.
Our reputation started in 1916, so we are worried about that as well.
MJ Saurondon
Duval Ford
that is the question, how do we sell these cars. And being a 21 year veteran of Minneapolis, I would agree with you on the drawing of the name. We have been given our allotment. We are getting ready to hold meetings to figure out what to do. One of our two (yes 2) is going to the owner of the dealership.
Our reputation started in 1916, so we are worried about that as well.
MJ Saurondon
Duval Ford
Re: 2005 Ford GT - ebay auction for the right to b
Shall we take bets on whether this next one makes it to the end of the auction?
Yet another Ford GT "Right to Buy"
Check out the seller's user ID and feedback record (or lack of).
Rob
Shall we take bets on whether this next one makes it to the end of the auction?
Yet another Ford GT "Right to Buy"
Check out the seller's user ID and feedback record (or lack of).
Rob
Re: $176,100 and counting
176K, and the reserve hasn't been met!
This dealer has brass balls, doesn't he?
Personally, I'd like to see his allotment
of GTs, slip through the cracks!
I thought scalping was illegal? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
176K, and the reserve hasn't been met!
This dealer has brass balls, doesn't he?
Personally, I'd like to see his allotment
of GTs, slip through the cracks!
I thought scalping was illegal? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Jim Rosenthal
Supporter
Re: $176,100 and counting
Someone is going to get hurt by this, I am afraid. Who has to have this so bad that they can't wait in line for a few months? People really are crazy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Someone is going to get hurt by this, I am afraid. Who has to have this so bad that they can't wait in line for a few months? People really are crazy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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