After stumbling over an old thread or two talking about the quickness (or lack thereof) of the GT40 in general, I got to wondering why this is the case. Is it that most of the replicas are just under powered compared to modern super cars?
I mean think about it. We have a very light car with most of it's weight very close to the drive wheels and even a, relatively, sleek design that isn't too bad at high speed drag. All things considered, these cars should be very quick, like the Ford GT, yet I think only one member has his car in the low 11's in the 1/4 mile.
Now my goal in building my replica is to have it perform as well as the current year ZR1, or at least reasonably close. So I did a little math using the new ZR1 in comparison to my planned project.
Initially my thought was a centrifugal supercharger (Paxton in specific) feeding a Coyote (actually, the Aluminator version of it). Looking at the numbers though, I am not so sure that would be needed to reach my goal of ZR1 like performance. Now I am thinking that may not be the case at all.
Of course we know that traction control has a lot to do with quickness in these cars, but given the tire I will be running (Gulf version...tire will be a 305) I think that hooking up won't be such an issue (not that I plan to drag it much at all...maybe just once to set a benchmark).
Anyway, here are some numbers:
The weight of the two vehicles is like this (the 225 is the driver's weight)
ZR1 3353 + 225 = 3578
GT40 2350 + 225 = 2575
The rear wheel horsepower of the two cars is this:
ZR1 525 rwhp
GT40 455 rwhp
Note that I got to the 455 mark by going conservative for what I saw on some sites showing the Coyote with the Boss intake and larger throttle body but retaining all of the exhaust and emissions equipment. In short, I think this will be quite low for what a the engine will actually make. Here is a good article though: 2012 Boss 302 Intake Test - 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords Magazine
So, doing the math we have this:
ZR1 = 3578/535 = 6.687lbs/hp
GT40 = 2575/455 = 5.659 lbs/hp
My little GT40 even normally aspirated should be able to accelerate every bit as well as the ZR1 assuming proper hookup at the line and good gearing.
Thoughts?
Side note: Ford did a little trick with the GT giving it a first gear that allowed the car to hit 60mph without shifting. May consider doing that as the Audi tranny guy here offers custom 1st and 2nd gears. I bet a GT40 replica with 455rwhp and that gearing could hit 0-60 in 3.5 seconds or less).
I mean think about it. We have a very light car with most of it's weight very close to the drive wheels and even a, relatively, sleek design that isn't too bad at high speed drag. All things considered, these cars should be very quick, like the Ford GT, yet I think only one member has his car in the low 11's in the 1/4 mile.
Now my goal in building my replica is to have it perform as well as the current year ZR1, or at least reasonably close. So I did a little math using the new ZR1 in comparison to my planned project.
Initially my thought was a centrifugal supercharger (Paxton in specific) feeding a Coyote (actually, the Aluminator version of it). Looking at the numbers though, I am not so sure that would be needed to reach my goal of ZR1 like performance. Now I am thinking that may not be the case at all.
Of course we know that traction control has a lot to do with quickness in these cars, but given the tire I will be running (Gulf version...tire will be a 305) I think that hooking up won't be such an issue (not that I plan to drag it much at all...maybe just once to set a benchmark).
Anyway, here are some numbers:
The weight of the two vehicles is like this (the 225 is the driver's weight)
ZR1 3353 + 225 = 3578
GT40 2350 + 225 = 2575
The rear wheel horsepower of the two cars is this:
ZR1 525 rwhp
GT40 455 rwhp
Note that I got to the 455 mark by going conservative for what I saw on some sites showing the Coyote with the Boss intake and larger throttle body but retaining all of the exhaust and emissions equipment. In short, I think this will be quite low for what a the engine will actually make. Here is a good article though: 2012 Boss 302 Intake Test - 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords Magazine
So, doing the math we have this:
ZR1 = 3578/535 = 6.687lbs/hp
GT40 = 2575/455 = 5.659 lbs/hp
My little GT40 even normally aspirated should be able to accelerate every bit as well as the ZR1 assuming proper hookup at the line and good gearing.
Thoughts?
Side note: Ford did a little trick with the GT giving it a first gear that allowed the car to hit 60mph without shifting. May consider doing that as the Audi tranny guy here offers custom 1st and 2nd gears. I bet a GT40 replica with 455rwhp and that gearing could hit 0-60 in 3.5 seconds or less).