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David Morton

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Jim,
The cabin air does eventually partly exhaust overboard via a couple of valves (Outflow Valves) operated by the ECS (Environmental Control Systems ) and so it keeps changing. Some aeroplanes are better at it than others.



Outflow and pressure relief valve on a Boeing 737-800



When the airlines permitted smoking the Outflow Valves were always highly contaminated and often malfunctioned as any Nigels (A BA cabin crew term for a Pilot) here will confirm.
So a miss is as good as a mile Jim....
Think on.

Veek,
I am learning Bagpiping and drink Barolo - does that count?
 

Ian Anderson

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Dave
How you getting on with the Hemi, Demi, semi's?

For the uninitiated it is one 64th of a normal note! :laugh:

Presume after the Barolo you cannot achieve the speed required.

:thumbsdown:
 

Steve

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Exhausted and back home. A brilliant couple of days. So many caiperinhas I lost count.
Some brilliant Argentinian red wines as well.
Here is a question. If the champagne in first class is part of the all up take off weight (APS weight) and it gets drunk en route, does it figure in the landing weight?
I think not. It was a B777 and went to FL 330 for 4 hours then FL390 for 6 hours.
Here is why I think not. I left a glass of water beside my seat and when I stopped drinking champagne and had a kip the water had evaporated by about 40%. I spent a lot of time thinking as well so I must have been expending energy.


Doesn't this depend on how many trips to the loo you made and the number of times the pilot "accidently" jettisons the blue ice?
 

David Morton

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Veek - are you referring to a certain Breakdown ?
Steve - Blue ice is the stuff of cheap charter airlines with lesser levels of maintenance.
I saw it repeatedly on the B737-200's in Monarch Airlines but never in BA.
 

Pat

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Jim,
Veek,
I am learning Bagpiping and drink Barolo - does that count?

I think bagpipes may be even better!

I'm afraid I don't recall any breakdown. Did it have anything to do with the wild beach party or blue ice?

While I found the outflow and pressure relief valve picture somewhat "aero-erotic" do you have any photos of said beach party? Just wondering...
 
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Jim Rosenthal

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To the bagpipe choir we'll add banjo, tuba, viola, and oboe. We don't want any of the formerly left out to feel.... well...... left out.

I am off to the dentist, to begin a perfect day.
 

Pat

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Good luck with the dentist. I went two weeks ago. It's always really special because I schedule my appointments to have Tammy the very attractive dental hygienist do the cleaning. She's pretty, witty and just as cute as can be. In fact, I eat a box of OREO cookies just before I go into the office so I can spend more time with her.

She's far better than the other hygienist Madolyn who apparently uses a prison shank to clean between your teeth. "Oh, your gums look sensitive, here let's stab them with this ice pick"...
 

Steve

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Both of my brothers are dentists. I let them do all my work with my hand around their neck. It's like detente...
 

Larry L.

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Both of my brothers are dentists. I let them do all my work with my hand around their neck. It's like detente...


HAAAAhahahahaha! 'Love it!

I always double up my fist and say to Dr. McRory (my guy), "Now, we AREN'T going to hurt each other...........are we!"
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
I have to say during my time in Malta with the RAF I had this fascinating relationship with a Dental Hygienist (Navy). She was an excellent diver (underwater) and we used to go well south of Malta in my Dell Quay Dory - so much so the island called Filfla was completely out of sight and I guess we were about 20 miles distant as it took about 40 minutes to get back. No bottom visible so it was always a drift dive underneath the Dory. With a styrene box full of cold booze live was fun. There was nothing not to like.
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
Jim,
I used to have a pair of Spirotechnique 80s. They were the best bottles I ever had. The other set I had was a Sousmarine twin 60 . My valve was always the Spirotechnique Cousteau twin hose with the aquastop mouth piece which was great for photo work but had limitations when the valve was below the mouthpiece.
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
ps - invariably better above the layer - uses a lot less air and its warmer - especially in the Gibraltar area where there was very marked thermocline.
 
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