Radiator on my Gt40

Vinny P

Supporter
My RCR came with an upper and lower inlet and outlet radiator hose configuration. Can anyone tell me if I can modify it by having the inlet and outlet on the bottom or do I need a radiator designed that way for it to function properly?
 

Ian Clark

Supporter
Hi Vinney,

A picture would be very helpfull, thanks. The RCR radiator is a quality piece cross flow design.

Are you thinking about having a dual pass vertical flow radiator made as per the original GT40?

Cheers
Ian
 

Vinny P

Supporter
Hi Ian, The radiator was originally inlet upper outlet lower from RCR, I modified it so both inlet and outlet are on the bottom. Someone had mentioned to me that you need a specially designed radiator for it to function properly, so now I am unsure if this was the correct thing to do. I needed the clearance for my hoses and did not want to modify the body. I am running a conventional water pump and wondering if this would be enough for good circulation or would I need to install an electric water pump? Thank you for getting back to me.
 

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Ian Clark

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Hi Vinney,

Nice looking car! The modified radiator will work just fine so long as the outlet side is at the top of the tank and the inlet on the bottom of the other tank.

Doesn't matter if the flow is right to left or vice versa. What we did for in this situation is fabricate a tight bend radius tube to bring the return outlet down and heading for the central tunnel. Hope this helps

Cheers
Ian
 

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Vinny, you have internal baffle to force water to go from top to bottom, to be shure that water is not following a short path between inlet and outlet. The only solution is to had a pipe outside.
 

Lee Patterson

Supporter
Was the RCR radiator not a triple pass setup and by moving the inlet pipe you have now created a weakened dual pass with a dead end at the top? Maybe I am missing the config here.

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Ian Clark

Supporter
All good points for sure. There have been single pass cross flow radiators set up that way, my concerns were exacltly what Lee illustrated.

So is the question is if Vinnys' rad is a single pass cross flow type, will it be less efficient if both outlets are at the bottom? Most likely IMHO

Thats why we went with the top outlet being plumbed with a downpipe to look as much like of the original GT40 radiator pipes plumbing.

The alernative is the rather costly daul pass verticle flow radiator as per the original cars.

Cheers
 

Lee Patterson

Supporter
I can't imagine Fran designed his car with a single pass rad. I would call RCR and confirm that it is a triple pass. If so, its now ruined I believe.
 

Paul T.

Supporter
My RCR is single pass that had both inlet and outlet at the bottom. I moved my inlet to the top. I believe it will cool better but I have no science to back it up other than most radiators have inlet and outlet opposite.
 

Vinny P

Supporter
I just ordered a new 3-row radiator. Thanks for the information. I should have checked before modifying the radiator I had. I have another question, my engine builder installed a Ford Racing Water Pump, Mechanical, Short, Street Rod, Standard-Volume, Aluminum ( how it was described on the invoice). Will this be enough for a mid-engine setup? Or should I install a high-output water pump?
 
If measure the temperature on the radiator with a thermocouple meter during just when you start the engine, by moving the sensor between bottom, middle and top position, you shall see if you get a progressive temperature going left to right on the 3 levels --> 3 rows, or the same behavior, left to right --> single row.
 

Vinny P

Supporter
https://www.ebay.com/itm/401177216109 There are a few vendors on eBay. This seller accepts offers so that you can save a few bucks, too. A few vendors are offering 2,3,4 row fadiators. The radiator width is 1/2" narrower, and the height is 1/4" lower than the radiators supplied by RCR. Just type in GT40 radiators (in the ebay search bar) on eBay if you want to research other options.
 

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Lee Patterson

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No following the design in that picture. The inlet and outlet are both on the bottom (or top) but the tubes run across the unit. Not sure how water would flow or ever be cooled like that.

Look carefully at the unit in the link. In order for both inlet and outlet to be on the bottom, the cooling tubes run the opposite direction and there is a baffle inside the tanks to create a dual pass design.

 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/401177216109 There are a few vendors on eBay. This seller accepts offers so that you can save a few bucks, too. A few vendors are offering 2,3,4 row fadiators. The radiator width is 1/2" narrower, and the height is 1/4" lower than the radiators supplied by RCR. Just type in GT40 radiators (in the ebay search bar) on eBay if you want to research other options.
Hi Vinny, i was loolong at these radiators and the price just seems to be too good to be true. Have you received the rad yet (i know its coming from china) what does the quality actually look like?

For the price it might be worth a punt anyway and just swap it later if its not up to the job?
 

Brian Kissel

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Lifetime Supporter
The only problem I see, without actually seeing one in person is that it shows the inlet and outlet diameters at 1 3/8". Most radiators I have are either 1 1/2" or 1 3/4".

Regards Brian
 

Neal

Lifetime Supporter
Vinny, I have one of these in my garage, new in the box. I’ll take a few pictures and measure the inlet/outlet. It’s too small for my big block FE. If you are interested we can work out a friends and family deal.
I’ll post the pics and specs tomorrow.
 

Kyle

GT40s Sponsor
I have one. Looks fine. A good sealing shroud and high CFM will do more for cooling than what the bad design will hurt.
 

Neal

Lifetime Supporter
Here are a few photos…
It measures 28 1/2” x 12 1/2”x 1 3/4”. The inlet/outlets are 1 1/
PM me if interested. $200 plus shipping.

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